1998/99 Retro Rosters

[batdad]

Maybe put Vancouver Canucks as a hated team, and Pat Quinn or whoever GM is as hated. Then leave Pavel unsigned, and have fave team as Florida and their GM. No idea. but just a thought...to somehow get him to refuse to play in Vancouver and have the Nucks deal him.

[CJ]

Thanks CeeBee & batdad!

[CJ]

Update: 70% done.

[CJ]

Update: 80% done. And here's a little teaser for ya.

[nickflyers]

Looking awesome!

[CJ]

Update: 90% done.

Next week I'll release my first version of this database. After that I'll go for the first drafts. (year 1999)

[CJ]

Well now all NHL players are done. I'm soon gonna release my version of this DB. Still gonna edit a few prospects before release.

The first version will be playable but I woudn't recommend playing a serious season. But at least test it, and point out errors.

There are a lot of "hidden" players ingame that has insane stats when only being 17yrs old. I think it's because they are 8 years younger in this DB but have their attributes of the peak of their career (~25yrs).

[Pandemonium]

New here just browsing around. I will keep an eye out on this thread. Looking foreword to this. Thanks in advance for putting your time into creating this for all of us.

[CJ]

What do you guys think I should do. I have 3 NHL teams without any players (ATL, CLB, MIN). Should I just leave them empty, and let them sign "cr*p" players. Or shoul I create fictional ok players for them, or move some european or some AHL players to their teams? Then there's also I think 7 AHL teams that are empty (there were only 19 teams in 98 in the AHL). This DB is focused on NHL, so AHL isn't that important rigth now.

The reason why I wouldn't like to have 3 completely empty teams is that all other teams beat them 10-0 all the time. And that impacts alot on the scoring of players. Many mighty over 60 goals a season. 10-20 might come from those cr*p teams.

[nino33]

What do you guys think I should do. I have 3 NHL teams without any players (ATL, CLB, MIN). Should I just leave them empty, and let them sign "cr*p" players. Or shoul I create fictional ok players for them, or move some european or some AHL players to their teams?

You could check to see if there are 3 independent minor pro teams in 1998-99, and then use those rosters (edited to be poor to low average NHLers whose strength is defense).....or just create your own players/staff (poor to low average NHLers whose strength is defense)

This DB is focused on NHL, so AHL isn't that important rigth now.

Given the injuries and player movement in EHM the players in the AHL (and overseas) can have a significant impact on NHL rosters


For minor pro teams you have 84 available from in-real-life 1998-99, with the AHL (19), IHL (16), ECHL (27), UHL (11) and CHL (11).
I suggest using the IRL players to populate as many EHM minor pro leagues as you can, and for the rest just set them to have no NHL affiliations.
Your AHL can be the in-real-life AHL + IHL teams, your ECHL can be the in-real life ECHL teams, and your CHL can be in-real-life CHL/IHL/UHL teams

For the 1974 database I did this, taking all available IRL minor pro teams from 1974 and populating the AHL and CHL (I left the remaining teams without affiliations and empty of players/staff)


That's my two cents

[CJ]

Thanks for that! Well I didn't mean I won't do anything to AHL and european players. I've already edited a few hundreds of them. But I meant players with CA 40 and CA 90. Those players won't impact the NHL directly. So my focus isn't on those players.

[CJ]

I decided to creat "new/fake" players for Columbus, Minnesota and Atlanta. The teams has no rosters at the beginning of the game. When simulating they get beaten 10-0 in most games. That also impacts the "star" players, as they might get ~140 points in a season, because ~40 points they get are from those cr*p teams.

I'll create 9 new players for each team; 1 GK, 3 D:s, 5 F:s. This way these teams might get a more reasonable "beating".

After these 27 players are done I'll release the first version of this database.

[jesterx7769]

Excited for this since you are almost done. Hopefully it all works out.

[Landy92]

Just a suggestion, maybe change the Avs' maroon to Phoenix "Red, it looks more like the Avs' original shade of maroon from the 90's.

Can't wait to play this though, great work.

[CJ]

Excited for this since you are almost done. Hopefully it all works out.

I found out that ATL,CBL,MIN doesn't have staff, so I'll have to create those too before the release. The first version will be out next week.

Just a suggestion, maybe change the Avs' maroon to Phoenix "Red, it looks more like the Avs' original shade of maroon from the 90's.

Can't wait to play this though, great work.

I haven't look at the team colours at all. But I will at some point.

[CJ]

Wohoo, Fantasy Draft works now in this DB!! (those who played the early version knows it didn't work)

[domburmeister]

Is this ready yet?

[CJ]

Is this ready yet?

It's nowhere near ready, but I'm soon gonna release my first version of it, which is playable, but not "ready". I'm waiting right now on archibalduk to take a look at the database. It has errors that players that was drafted '98 are able to be signed by any team (not all of them but a few). When that error is fixed I'll release the first version.

If it takes long to fix it, I'll just have to release it with those errors.

[CJ]

After testing my first season in this database this is how it looked after a season.

TOP10 Forwards


TOP10 Defensemen


World Championship Final 1999 (Talk about dramatic ending in a final )

[bruins72]

That's looking fairly accurate.

[batdad]

1998-99 Actual real life point leaders

Points
1. Jaromir Jagr-PIT 127
2. Teemu Selanne-MDA 107
3. Paul Kariya-MDA 101
4. Peter Forsberg-COL 97
5. Joe Sakic*-COL 96
6. Alexei Yashin-OTT 94
14. Jason Allison-BOS 76
15. Tony Amonte-CHI 75
16. Luc Robitaille*-LAK 74
Rod Brind'Amour-PHI 74
Steve Yzerman*-DET 74
19. Steve Thomas-TOR 73
20. Petr Sykora-NJD 72
Jeremy Roenick-PHX 72

So pretty darn good I would say....save for the fact that Stumpel and the Laffs are too good. Cough Sundin nowhere to be found in real life scoring cough

[Manimal]

Adam Foote in the top ten scoring defensemen is also weird

[batdad]

Nah...he is a superstar. Oh wait..not a Leaf. He sucks, you are right. Darn it where are all the Rangers..they should be 1 through 20 in scoring.

[CJ]

Adam Foote in the top ten scoring defensemen is also weird

That's not my fault. Maybe (COL then ANA) used him in powerplay or something?! I didn't make him anyway near a offensive defensman.

So pretty darn good I would say....save for the fact that Stumpel and the Laffs are too good. Cough Sundin nowhere to be found in real life scoring cough

Haha! Where did you hide Sundin in your list?

[CJ]

Well I still have errors with a few players drafted in '98, they're able to be signed by any NHL team. I've messaged Archi a week ago about this, but he's probably very busy these days. So do you think I should release a "v0.9" of this database now even though there are those errors? The database is playable now, but still has a lot of things that needs fixing.