TBL Rosters 2013-2014; Mistakes, omissions, tweaks etc

[pantsukki]

Too old, too weak, too slow? (in the game I mean) I don't think I've seen Finland picking Selänne either in the latest rosters but I might be wrong.

He might still be retired from international duty, that was the case in 6.0 (for quite many veteran Finns).

Is that something the game does automatically? Or can it be edited?

I think I've seen some retirements set in the config files, not sure though.

[nino33]

He might still be retired from international duty, that was the case in 6.0 (for quite many veteran Finns).

Is that something the game does automatically? Or can it be edited?

I think I've seen some retirements set in the config files, not sure though.

Hmmm...AFAIK those in the Extra Config file cause a player to retire completely (i.e. they turn into Staff and/or are regened)...but I'm not aware of anything that connects to a player still playing but being "retired from international duty" (Manimal might be)

[Manimal]

Thought I would mention this here as well. The rights to Evgeny Kuznetsov (Washington Capitals) are gone when starting a new game and he is a free agent. Also, the rights to Thomas McCollum are not with the Red Wings despite the database showing he belongs to them. These issues are both in the 6.1 database.

I think you need to have Russia selected for Kuznetsovs rights to stick. I have no idea as to why McCollums rights didn't show up.

Not sure if this has been brought up, but Zach Parise has been joining Canada for the Olympics and beyond. Is there a way to make him ineligible for Team Canada without removing his Canadian citizenship

Fixed!

Ahh okay! Well maybe you chould switch his nationality to Finnish, and 2nd nationality to Russian (now it's the other way around). Because he has the Russian flag now.

I've changed him now. This will lead to the name base getting more Finnish guys called Barkov or Komarov, but that is no big deal

Hmmm...AFAIK those in the Extra Config file cause a player to retire completely (i.e. they turn into Staff and/or are regened)...but I'm not aware of anything that connects to a player still playing but being "retired from international duty" (Manimal might be)

There were a few international team retirements that I removed. I don't remember if Selänne or Nedved was among them

[batdad]

NEdved should remain retired. Period.

[CJ]

I've changed him now. This will lead to the name base getting more Finnish guys called Barkov or Komarov, but that is no big deal

Ok, good! Yeah that's not a big deal. The percentage is small for those last names.

[ForNever]

Too old, too weak, too slow? (in the game I mean) I don't think I've seen Finland picking Selänne either in the latest rosters but I might be wrong.

He might still be retired from international duty, that was the case in 6.0 (for quite many veteran Finns).

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that.

Did you change Barkov's first name Manimal? It's just my opinion to change it but I want to hear what you think.
I have picked up some other notes about the game aswell but I'll send those later on closer to a new roster update.

[Manimal]

Did you change Barkov's first name Manimal? It's just my opinion to change it but I want to hear what you think.
I have picked up some other notes about the game aswell but I'll send those later on closer to a new roster update.

Yup!

[marrques10]

Thanks for these rosters. I usually select to play NHL but I found few things.

When I was looking at Russian Super League (KHL in game) the affiliations of some clubs were not correct.

For example Admiral Vladivostok doesn't have any club from lower leagues (the club has two affiliations in real life) or SKA Saint Petersburg has even three clubs instead of two, it's not case only of these clubs what I found out...

Also checked the Czech Elite Hockey League where the club HC Mountifield České Budejovice is still there, but club's playing in the Czech lower league due financial reasons and changed name to ČEZ Motor České Budějovice (HC Motor in short) and substituted by Hradec Králové that started to play 2013/14 season as HK Mountfield Hradec Králové (Mountfield HK) with players that were originally played in Čěské Budějovice what I know. Switch the České Budejovice for Hradec Kralové - with players and staff of course

Maybe this could be helpful for fix those rosters

[Manimal]

Thanks for these rosters. I usually select to play NHL but I found few things.

When I was looking at Russian Super League (KHL in game) the affiliations of some clubs were not correct.

For example Admiral Vladivostok doesn't have any club from lower leagues (the club has two affiliations in real life) or SKA Saint Petersburg has even three clubs instead of two, it's not case only of these clubs what I found out...

Also checked the Czech Elite Hockey League where the club HC Mountifield České Budejovice is still there, but club's playing in the Czech lower league due financial reasons and changed name to ČEZ Motor České Budějovice (HC Motor in short) and substituted by Hradec Králové that started to play 2013/14 season as HK Mountfield Hradec Králové (Mountfield HK) with players that were originally played in Čěské Budějovice what I know. Switch the České Budejovice for Hradec Kralové - with players and staff of course

Maybe this could be helpful for fix those rosters

Thanks!
I'll try to fix this

[Alessandro]

Admiral Vladivostok > Rubin Tyumen
SKA should have VMF, SKA-1946 and Silver Lions ... however yes, maybe you can axe the affiliation with Silver Lions

[marrques10]

Admiral Vladivostok > Rubin Tyumen
SKA should have VMF, SKA-1946 and Silver Lions ... however yes, maybe you can axe the affiliation with Silver Lions

You're right Alessandro, Rubin Tyumen is there and Kristall Berdsk is the a second team of Vladivostok (check the table), Silver Lions are independent on SKA

in case of that I made research of official site of KHL and here's the table, sorry I couldn't find "attachment" button for the text file I have in my PC

[table][tr][/tr][td]KHL Team (RSL)[/td][td]Affiliation 1 (VHL)[/td][td]Affiliation 2 (MHL)[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]CSKA Moscow[/td][td]Kuban Krasnodar[/td][td]Krasnaya Armiya[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Dinamo Minsk[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]Dinamo Shinnik[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Dinamo Riga[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]HK Riga[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Lev Prague[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]No Team[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Medvescak Zagreb[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]No Team[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]SKA Saint Petersburg[/td][td]VMF Karelia[/td][td]SKA-1946[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Slovan Bratislava[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]No Team[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Atlant Moscow Oblast[/td][td]Buran Voronezh[/td][td]Atlanty[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Donbass Donetsk[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]Molodaya Gvardiya[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Dynamo Moscow[/td][td]Dynamo Balashikha[/td][td]HC MVD[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Lokomotiv Yaroslavl[/td][td]Dizel Penza[/td][td]Loko[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Severstal Cherepovets[/td][td]Izhstal Izhevsk[/td][td]Almaz[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Spartak Moscow[/td][td]Sokol Krasnoyarsk[/td][td]MHC Spartak[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Vityaz Moscow Oblast[/td][td]Titan Klin[/td][td]Russkie Vityazi[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Ak Bars Kazan[/td][td]Neftyanik Almetyevsk[/td][td]Bars[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg[/td][td]Sputnik Nizhny Tagil[/td][td]Avto[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Metallurg Magnitogorsk[/td][td]Yuzny Ural Orsk[/td][td]Stalnye Lisy[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk[/td][td]Molot-Prikamie Perm[/td][td]Reaktor[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod[/td][td]HC Sarov[/td][td]Chaika[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Traktor Chelyabinsk[/td][td]Chelmet Chelyabinsk[/td][td]Belye Medvedi[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk[/td][td]Lada Togliatti[/td][td]Mamonty Yugry[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Admiral Vladivostok[/td][td]Rubin Tyumen[/td][td]Kristall Berdsk[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Amur Khabarovsk[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]Amurskie Tigry[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Avangard Omsk Oblast[/td][td]Yermak Angarsk[/td][td]Omskie Yastreby[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Barys Astana[/td][td]No Team[/td][td]Shneznye Barsy[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Metallurg Novokuznetsk[/td][td]Ariada Volzhsk[/td][td]Kuznetskie Medvedi[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Salavat Yulaev Ufa[/td][td]Toros Neftekamsk[/td][td]Tolpar[/td][/tr]
[tr][/tr][td]Sibir Novosibirsk Oblast[/td][td]Zauralye Kurgan[/td][td]Sibirskie Snaipery[/td][/tr][/table]

[Ozzman]

Prior to this season the Swedish leagues removed the "2 Non-EU Player-limit" and the teams now often include 3, 4 or even more americans and canadiens. But that limit is still in the game, wich mean if you play with most of the swedish teams you have to get rid of several prominent players, just to be allowed to play.

Is that rule something that's able to remove?

[Alessandro]

Wait. Non-Russian KHL teams affiliations are missing in yuor table, but they are correct in the DB.
Also, Ozzman, I suggest you to try the super patch. It doesnt remove the swedish limits unfortunately, but it gives better rules in europe

[marrques10]

Wait. Non-Russian KHL teams affiliations are missing in yuor table, but they are correct in the DB.

Ok, thanks for noticing Although I got it from the official website of the league (english version), maybe the website has missing affiliations of Central European KHL clubs - Lev Prague, Slovan Bratislava and Medvescak. Russian version is the same... Well, not as reliable as I thought

sorry I apologize my fault

[Manimal]

Prior to this season the Swedish leagues removed the "2 Non-EU Player-limit" and the teams now often include 3, 4 or even more americans and canadiens. But that limit is still in the game, wich mean if you play with most of the swedish teams you have to get rid of several prominent players, just to be allowed to play.

Is that rule something that's able to remove?

I added some 2nd nationalities to work around the problem right away, but after that you're left to the old rules

[CJ]

Brent Burns had a consistency of 18 as a forward. I fixed that now. (after that I check that no other forward has it over 10)

[Manimal]

Brent Burns had a consistency of 18 as a forward. I fixed that now. (after that I check that no other forward has it over 10)

Archi probably had him listed as a d-man as he used to play defence

[CJ]

Brent Burns had a consistency of 18 as a forward. I fixed that now. (after that I check that no other forward has it over 10)

Archi probably had him listed as a d-man as he used to play defence

Yeah I know he was a D-man. And I figured that was the reason the consistency was left untouched.

[RomaGoth]

Brent Burns had a consistency of 18 as a forward. I fixed that now. (after that I check that no other forward has it over 10)

I changed the consistency of all d-men to mirror that of the forwards, and after simming seasons several times the results are much more realistic. I did the same thing with the UUDB 6.1 and the results were awesome. Very, very close to realistic, a few top heavy players (Malkin, Crosby, etc.) but most of the other players had very realistic stats. I believe that all forwards and d-men should have consistency ratings between 1-10, although the ones I used for the UUDB were between 3-7 and it worked great. I found that the goalies were way overpowered, however, when leaving their consistency at normal levels (most of them were between 12-18). I recommend dropping those a little bit, but not as low as the forwards/d-men otherwise we could have high scoring again, much like the original db.

Thoughts?

[CJ]

Thoughts?

Sounds good. Needs a lot of testing of course. Right now we keep it as it is. Later on it's easy to drop all D-men's consistency with 50% if needed.

[ppaalloo]

When will the new version of TBL rosters

[philou21]

When it'll be out.

[cirquedusmiley]

I've always heard of Nathan MacKinnon as a generational skating talent, but his 8-6-8-4 in the leftmost column doesn't seem to quite bear that out.

[CJ]

I've always heard of Nathan MacKinnon as a generational skating talent, but his 8-6-8-4 in the leftmost column doesn't seem to quite bear that out.

I'm aware of his skating ability. He'll be a lot faster in the next update.

[philou21]

I don't remember because I edited my DB a while ago but I think Nathan was random in the last DB. Or if he wasn't he was just really weak.