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Animal31 wrote:IE I have 10 39 year olds at -9, does that mean the 2008 bantam draft is gonna have 10 -9s? or 2009? 2010? 2011?
Keep in mind that the only "variable" is the first time at start-up...when you create the new game the computer will determine an actual PA for each of your -9 players, and it is that specific PA that all regens will have
That bottom part I know, but like I said, margin for error. Im not doing anything crazy number balancing wise, just looking and seeing "This draft has 10 -9s in it, but its also going to get more -9s when some players retire, which players are going to be 40 and regenned by then, on average?"
From what I can compile, a player is generated that July 1st, at the age of 2 years before their most relevant draft age. This means a euro would be 2 years away from being drafted in the NHL, Ontario and east canadian boys would be 2 years from their CHL draft, and western canadian kids would be 2 years before the WHL draft, which is a year eariler than the OHL/QJMHL drafts, unless they were born eariler in the year before september which means they get drafted early
So 16, 14, and 13
edit: Im just looking at CHL drafts from a 2020 saves
All players have played 2 or 1 seasons before being drafted and playing somewhere this season
Didn't read all the thread, but if you need logos, here are a pair of places you can look for generic logos:
- http://s289.photobucket.com/user/justaf ... t=4&page=1 (a few dozen different albums each with many logos), most are baseball based but many could still be used as a hockey team logo
- http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?k964ap66eo9r64q (DL link that contains 5000+ generic or fictional logos that could be used (again, baseball based, but many would work perfectly fine for a hockey team)
Im making Third jerseys for some teams, so pictures will look awesome, and so I can keep working even if I dont want to populate and edit rubbish, aka something to do during writers block. I gave the Victoria Neptunes retro jerseys from when I used them in Nhl 2004 when they had the San Jose Home, and the St Louis Away, and im giving people 3 pictures to choose from for each star player, an action shot, a face shot, and a name shot, and in each jersey. Some obviously will stick with 2 jerseys, Victoria gets extra cause their special, etc. Heres the action shot for the neptunes captain in the St Louis Away retro
Animal31 wrote:Does anyone know if I can make the AHL play their lights at home but keep their darks on the roster screen?
You could modify the skin so that the titlebar shows the home colours in a different order (e.g. so that the trim or foreground is displayed as the background, etc). However, this would affect all teams in the game and not just the AHL.
You'll find the titlebar files here: NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007\data\skins\<<name of skin e.g. ehm_default>>\interface\titlebar
Sometimes I wonder why I put a team in the Yukon and North West Territories.
Just if anyone was wondering, heres a list of cities I removed from the (2007) NHL
Atlanta
Buffalo
New York
New York
Philidelphia
Pittsburgh
Washington
Columbus
Tampa
Dallas
San Jose
LA
Anaheim -> Plays in Long Beach, but close enough
And I added
Whitehorse
Victoria
Kelowna
Yellowknife
Seattle
Sacremento
Regina
Salt Lake City
Austin
Hamilton
St Johns
Halifax
Winnipeg
Quebec City
Im mostly concerned about lack of High End representation. I god rid of 3 teams in new york, but I have Buffalo and Brooklyn in the AHL, and I also have at least 1 team in every single state, province, and territory, including hawaii and nunuvut, so I know everyone has a team. But im not sure if everyone has enough choice for an NHL team, since thats what mostly everyone plays, and I dont think Rangers fans would want to play as a team from Jersey
Animal31 wrote:
does anyone have any input for how many -10 pa players should be in the database?
Depends on how many superstars you want to bring up.
IRL, I'd say there is one in three or four years, but because of the relevance in the PA I'd put two or three in the db in the age group 15-20
FYI - there are actually 66 “-10 players” in total in the current TBL database (i.e. 66 players with a PA between 170 and 200)
There are 13 -15 players (110-190 PA). It’s likely at least 2 will have a PA of 170-190.
There are 54 -9 players (150-180 PA). It’s likely a third, or 18 players will have a PA 170-180.
There are 2 players who actually have a -10 PA (Jonathan Drouin & Connor McDavid).
Along with these 22 players there are currently 44 players (below) who have a PA between 170 and 200. On the list below I have used black font for those with a PA of 180-200 and blue font for those with a PA of 170-179
So…looking at 18 draft years, and 66 players…that’s almost 4 “-10 players” per year.
If you look just at those players whose PA is 180-200 it would be 24 players over 18 drafts, or 1 a year and 2 every three years
Looking at the original unedited shipped database, 86 players are 170-200, hardcoded and 12 set to -10
for the xor, there are 15 players that are 190-200, so that leaves 71 players that COULD be -15 or -9 (or -10)
previous tests of mine show that roughly 250 (read 272) of 1000 players in -15 will be 170-190. 250/1000 for a range of 20 in -15, so 250/1000/2 for a range of 10 for -9s 170-180 players. Both of those leave 47 players in the original 71 that could be assumed to be -10. divide that by 3 for a 33% chance of being in 3 different states, and you got a presumed probability of 15 (this obviously makes more sense in my head, but it makes sense more than 0 sense. In an infinite series of 1+0+1+0, we can assume at its .5 since we dont know if it ends on a 1 or a 0 so we just take the average, which happens to be /*numberofstates*, so we can assume /3)
so thats 15+15+12 for -10 players, 52 in total. thats just for the original database which many people assume to be overpowered. So ill do it again for Manimal5.0
Manimal has a lot more players 170-200, at 113, hardcoded, but only 3 set direct to -10
of those 113, 10 are set to 190-200, leaving 103 that COULD be -9, -10, or -15. Mathy math comes to 64 potential -10s, assumed to be 21.
10+3+21 = 34 '-10' PA players, compared to the above 42
this is of course assuming my 250/1000 is correctly assumed, -9 has the same spread for its proportional range as -15, and im not a complete moron
So between the two, and an average career of ~18, thats 42/18 and 34/18 which are 2.3 and 1.8 -10p players per year
for 16 years it would be 2.6 and 2.1
and like I said, this is JUST for -10, and not just the 170-200 range, adding in the -15s and -9s would obviously make the ranges number bigger. But for honest to god -10 = -10 PA players, I think this is accurate enough for people to base their decisions off of
im leaning towards something of 1.5 per year, or even 1.25 per year
I was thinking of turning Finland into the European hockey league. It has 3 playable leagues for 46 playable teams. I would do it wish Russia to mimic the KHL but it only has the one playable league. I would move Finland, Denmark, and Norway teams into Sweden for a Scandanavian hockey league, with Norway acting has the AHL kinda league, and Denmark the CHL/UHL.
All of these leagues allow for unlimited teams, as non playable teams can be altered and still be promoted into the main leagues, which means I can have teams from Italy and Isreal come in and not be a waste of space
Part of the trouble Ive been having latly comes down to Football Manager. Ive been editing in that as well, all kinds of ideas; my own countries, full world overwrites, a realistic canadian league, etc etc. And that combined with this is just destroying my creativity as the list of restrictions and things I CANT do is longer than my arm, and its really driving me to make my own game so I can program out these restrictions on my own terms. Im not giving up however, but I would really like to create a world hockey league, that would be pretty cool. I guess finland and europe is going to have to do
So EA kinda sullied my plans to give players pictures. The player hub is no longer available so I cant get my uploads, so ill have to figure out another way. But I guess that means the 40ish players that have pictures are good for now
