Feedback on the simulation

[batdad]

Been reported, being dealt with

[Peter_Doherty]

I think SI may need to take a look at their scheduling algorithms. No way this Brutal Schedule is going to cut it.
- Week 1: 5 games in 6 days
- Week 2: 3 games in 5 days
- Week 3: 4 games in 5 days
- Week 4: 4 games in 7 days[/list]

That's only 12 days off for the month of November with 8 back-to-backs. Practice is going to be pretty light this month.

It's a known problem and it will be fixed

[paul4587]

I've got a couple more observations as I've found more time to play the game recently.

1) It's far too easy to extend upcoming UFAs on your own team. Generally they just want a 1-3 year extension at the same or a slightly higher amount than their current deal. Contracts are also based too much off CA and not off actual NHL performance. If someone is top 5 in goals by only has a CA of 145 he is generally very easy to sign.
2) Hitting is broken, forwards dominate the hitting leader-board and the actual hitting attribute doesn't seem to play too much into how many hits one has.
3) Fast/small defensemen (and forwards to a lesser extent) seem to fare a lot better than bigger/slower guys. I've been using a 2006-07 DB and an example being Pronger and Niedermayer - both have similar CAs, both play almost the exact same minutes for the same team in the same situations yet Nieds AVR is close to 8 while Pronger's AVR is barely 7. Small guys like Timonen, Visnovsky, Boyle and Kim Johnsson all dominate where as guys like Pronger, Chara, Blake struggle. The latter three still produce ok offensive numbers but they don't generate many hits, their AVR is low and they never compete for Norris trophies.

[Koekenbakker]

Major thing for me:
- Defencemen shoot too much, even if you put shooting on the lowest possible settings. On average 10 shots per game versus 5 from a forward seems strange.

[batdad]

On the dman shooting. Play with individual tactics. On my flyers I have Streit set to shoot barrage and he leads the team in shots. All else are set pass, and shoot normal or less, and they are well down the list.

After 17 games Streit 73 (yeah this is wrong, and I have lowered his shooting to see what happens).
Voracek 52
Giroux 48
Umberger 46
Raffl 40
Read 39
B Schenn 39

then the Dmen, which may be slightly high, but not too bad are as follows

Del Zotto 32
L Schenn 29
MacDonald 29

Those are the other 3 Dmen on PP 1 and 2 for me.

Then the rest

Grossman 18
Shultz 15
Kostka 3 in 8 games
Gudas 1 in 4 games


Changed Sreit from shoot, barrage to pass normal and lets see what happens over the next while with him

[Peter_Doherty]

Check the league shooting batdad, it's a big problem... my first season in the challenge Stamkos var the first forward on the list at #17 in shots fired...

[batdad]

Yeah it is an issue for sure. CAM FOWLER with 114 shots in just 25 games. Top 8 are dmen and only 10 forwards in top 50. Wow. None of my guys period.

[Peter_Doherty]

Yeah, it's an issue with the game right now

[batdad]

Just was saying, if you put all 30 human GMs in ... you would not have the issue. LOL...of course it would take me 30 days to play 1 day.

[Peter_Doherty]

Haha, that would be something

[umwoz]

Not sure it needs to be mentioned, but the cap not increasing seriously screws over a couple AI teams in every game. Chicago and Pittsburgh always end up having to liquidate quality for scraps.

I'm curious if the DMen shooting has anything to do with the shoot/pass bias attributes in the DB. Might be something we need to adapt to.

[batdad]

And lets see...in real life Chicago is going to have that problem as well, and so is Pittsburgh. What guys do not get about the EHM camp (2007 and EA) is that is NOT DYNAMIC and NEITHER ARE THE PLAYER SALARIES. The game contract system stays the same. So players of each calibre are in the same ranges for contract in year 1 as they are in year 10. Yeah sure some guys ask for raises as they improve, but that is the manager job to come in and bring in a few cheaper players of good caliber.

I mean its been all over the place that when Toews/Kane new deals kick in in real life...at least one of the supporting guys and maybe two have to go. (Sharp is one they talk about constantly)

[Koekenbakker]

And lets see...in real life Chicago is going to have that problem as well, and so is Pittsburgh. What guys do not get about the EHM camp (2007 and EA) is that is NOT DYNAMIC and NEITHER ARE THE PLAYER SALARIES. The game contract system stays the same. So players of each calibre are in the same ranges for contract in year 1 as they are in year 10. Yeah sure some guys ask for raises as they improve, but that is the manager job to come in and bring in a few cheaper players of good caliber.

I mean its been all over the place that when Toews/Kane new deals kick in in real life...at least one of the supporting guys and maybe two have to go. (Sharp is one they talk about constantly)

I agree on this. Although it would be nice if the cap could go up, but the salaries would as well (not sure if that's possible, need extensive testing for seasons +10 years lol).

[dabo]

Not sure where to put this but it seems really difficult to keep one's prospects in the AHL to prepare them for the NHL, I have had several of my best prospects reject my offer (an offer suggested by the player in the first place) and sign in Europe instead (not always a good league or good money either). I find this very frustrating.

[batdad]

Not sure if it will work in this game dabo, but did in 2007. I raise the percentage I pay them if they get sent down to the minors. Game defaults to 10 percent, and I have gone as high as 100 for real good prospects (and a couple vets) to keep them willing to sign. Have you tried that?

[dabo]

Thanks for the tip, I will try that. I don't remember having this problem in EHM 2007.

[hockeysauce]

This may have been mentioned before...

Playing as GM/HC of Victoria in the WHL, my staff (existing and newly hired) keep getting poached. Some guys go to NHL teams, which is understandable, but others go to lesser junior teams. It seems the staff finances aren't complete yet, and maybe this is why my guys are so quick to leave (I can only offer them $1,500/year max), but it's a pain to hire a solid Asst Coach only to have him leave for greener pastures less than a month later. And my scouting staff has just been decimated lol...

[colinrsmall]

I don't know if high scoring is still an issue, but I've been running the whole game with quick sim and pretty much all games stay around 4 goals max for each team. Some games are higher scoring and there are some shootouts and scoring overall seems very very realistic.

[SirMichaelJordan]

I don't know if high scoring is still an issue, but I've been running the whole game with quick sim and pretty much all games stay around 4 goals max for each team. Some games are higher scoring and there are some shootouts and scoring overall seems very very realistic.

Its still high scoring but not as much as 2007. It varies in different leagues and for the NHL scoring is about .50 to .70 too high.

If you use a very offensive tactic the user can get his team to score about 300 goals in a season.

[Satyr]

Reaches 350+ goals 4 seasons in a row now, with the naff Coyotes. Double figures are not rare too. No Cup win so far, but tons of individual awards, obviously.

I raised the Cap to $77.000.000 (€70.000.000) and that means that teams will get in financial trouble. The game usually ends up with a cash injection for those teams, but it's not realistic. So be careful when raising the cap...

[Alessandro]

And lets see...in real life Chicago is going to have that problem as well, and so is Pittsburgh. What guys do not get about the EHM camp (2007 and EA) is that is NOT DYNAMIC and NEITHER ARE THE PLAYER SALARIES. The game contract system stays the same. So players of each calibre are in the same ranges for contract in year 1 as they are in year 10. Yeah sure some guys ask for raises as they improve, but that is the manager job to come in and bring in a few cheaper players of good caliber.

I mean its been all over the place that when Toews/Kane new deals kick in in real life...at least one of the supporting guys and maybe two have to go. (Sharp is one they talk about constantly)

I think I explained it 100 times...

[Koekenbakker]

Hossa went on waivers 6 games into the season. He was a 80 point player the season before. I think the AI teams are waiving the wrong players to get out of cap trouble.

[Satyr]

Just saw a very sloppy goal, starting with a face-off in my Sharks zone. The puck is cleared and played towards the Devils' goalie. The puck somehow slows down, and the goalie only has to come out his crease a few inches, to grab the puck. He doesn't and Marleau scores a goal.

Does anyone know how to upload the highlights? I have saved it.

[Alessandro]

Just saw a very sloppy goal, starting with a face-off in my Sharks zone. The puck is cleared and played towards the Devils' goalie. The puck somehow slows down, and the goalie only has to come out his crease a few inches, to grab the puck. He doesn't and Marleau scores a goal.

Does anyone know how to upload the highlights? I have saved it.

http://community.sigames.com/showthread ... TP-Details

[dabo]

Am I the only one with the problem that american and canadian juniors who play at a lower junior level and intend to go play college hockey never do? They continue to play at that lower junior level. I can see that they have a contract with the junior team a few more seasons but can it not be terminated in favour of college hockey? I never had this problem in EHM 2007.