Feedback on the simulation

[krownroyal83]

I'd like to see a majority of coaches do it. I'm fine with the more conservative ones not doing it but there is no upside to not doing it. Whether you lose 2-0 or 3-0 the result is still a loss. As far as how important this is, i wouldn't say it's high up there as there are many important issues that need to be corrected and perfected first but at some point the developers should take a look at it.

[A9L3E]

Also, in EHM it seems the empty-net goals are more common than in real life, so it makes sense that AI is more conservative about it.

[steviewhy]

Chris Thorburn was the leading scorer on the Jets and in the top 50 in the league when.. they waived him

[batdad]

Well yeah, because they know he is really useless to them. But they have bigger problems if he was their leading scorer.

[steviewhy]

He had 18 goals at Christmas and got waived December 26th lol

[umwoz]

I think the bigger issue is how Thorburn ever got more than 12 goals in an entire year.

That said, in my past experience the game doesn't value production and results in contracts/waivers as much as it does reputation and CA. It's why you see things like this and also why you see guys with a "very good" rep and subpar attributes put up 30-40 goals in a year and then sign for 2.5M.

[steviewhy]

That makes sense. I took a closer look at him to see if maybe he'd scored ten goals in two weeks or something but he was legitimately at a goal every other game pace, so somethings off with the AI and Thorburn

[krownroyal83]

I think the bigger issue is how Thorburn ever got more than 12 goals in an entire year.

That said, in my past experience the game doesn't value production and results in contracts/waivers as much as it does reputation and CA. It's why you see things like this and also why you see guys with a "very good" rep and subpar attributes put up 30-40 goals in a year and then sign for 2.5M.

What does "CA" stand for?

[nino33]

CA = Current Ability
PA = Potential Ability

The range is 1-200

[batdad]

I think the bigger issue is how Thorburn ever got more than 12 goals in an entire year.

That said, in my past experience the game doesn't value production and results in contracts/waivers as much as it does reputation and CA. It's why you see things like this and also why you see guys with a "very good" rep and subpar attributes put up 30-40 goals in a year and then sign for 2.5M.

The reputation thing...and it not going up...so demands not going up for contract is an issue for Riz that he is working on I believe. The linkage to Reputation for things like all star game/waivers etc...that is huge as you say...because well....if everyone is very good rep, how on earth does the AI decide who to waive? Need guys able to rise up the rep ranks a little bit better than they are now, and others to drop off based on performance.

A very good player on his way up can easily score 40 goals, (Nick JEnsen) but .... as soon as they get there....they should move to superb. Four season in with 3 40 goal campaigns Jakub VOracek was rated real good. So was a guy in his rookie year in the NHL who played on the fourth line for me (Laughton) and so was the 40 year old Mark Streit.

And yes...hopefully someone has asked SI and RIz on their site to make it a priority to attach more importance to PERFORMANCE for rep boosts/decreases as well as AI Decision making and of course things like awards and all star selections.

[krownroyal83]

CA = Current Ability
PA = Potential Ability

The range is 1-200

Gotch ya. Even with scouting you can't find those numbers for an individual player in the game i'm assuming?

[nino33]

CA = Current Ability
PA = Potential Ability

The range is 1-200

Gotch ya. Even with scouting you can't find those numbers for an individual player in the game i'm assuming?

That's correct (but you can get a good idea through Scouting, looking at Attributes and player performance)

[Saapas]

If a team has delayed penalty coming the other teams goalie doesn't go to bench for the 6th player

[KevT90]

I can imagine that tactics while using the enhanced simulation are having a big/bigger effect.

Does someone know if the tactics (team/unit/personal tactics) actually have an effect at all while using the quick sim simulation ?

[flamesfan2313]

Its year 2 and Hossa, Keith, and Voracek were all waived.

[batdad]

Good grief. Kelowna Rockets sent Tyson Baillie at age 19 to Junior B Okotoks. Really? Guy was 3rd on your team in scoring in the first season of EHM. Ugh.

[Pensfan66]

Trading up in the draft is to hard and unrealistic, trying to move up to the 2nd pick and offered Malkin, kovalchuck, letang, 19th pick and 24th just to see if they would take it and still turned down.

[batdad]

Not really. How often does it actually happen in real life where a team manages to trade into the top 3? IT should be really really hard IMHO. Should have to be overpayment. Don't get me wrong I get what you are saying re your trade offer, but is that a realistic deal? Not from either side because of the cap.

[Peter_Doherty]

Yeah, a deal where you jump from 19th OA to 2nd really shouldn't be possible, i don't think a trade like that has ever happened and i doubt it ever will (might be wrong since my NHL-history knowledge ain't perfect).

[Pensfan66]

3rd overall pick and he 4th turned me down for the same offer too. So now Noah hanifan and Dylan strome are worth more than Malkin, kovy, Letang and 19th and 24th picks. If any gm in real life turned that down they would be fired on the spot. It needs to be fixed, shouldn't be anywhere near as easy as last game but needs to be tuned down Alittle. And all the teams I offered could fit them all under cap

[Peter_Doherty]

You do realize how much salary you are shipping away right? Have you tried adding a few cap dumps from their team?

[Pensfan66]

Yes. Also saying that trading into the top 3 doesn't happen, the year the lightning took drouin 3rd overall a rumor which was later confirmed was they offered pittsburgh the 3rd overall and choice of prospect for letang and shero was gonna pull the trigger but it got vetoed by morehouse because letang was to marketable.

[Edgars]

If any gm in real life turned that down they would be fired on the spot.

The same would be said by oposite - if any GM would offer other GM such a deal as you have described he would be fired on the spot and that's the reason why game don't allow such things to happen in the first place!

[batdad]

Islanders offered every pick they have to a team for the Nathan McKinnon pick, at least I think it was that year. Turned down out of hand. Like immediately. Snow was not fired, neither was the other GM. So....to conclude this...trades that try to take advantage of AI and cannot happen in the game, good thing. Trades that are offered and refused just like they would be in real life....Good thing. Trades that have human GMs in game trying to screw the AI and are refused good thing.

Not sure where the bad is here. Realism is what we want right? Not EA Sports?

[lafontaine83]

Yeah I'm glad the game didn't give you that trade.

In real life, that trade would never happen... why?

Because the team taking on the big end couldn't have room for them. You assumed the game would allow it... and it didn't.

I'm glad.

It's a simulation, and stupid stuff like that doesn't happen. Kudos to the game.