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Re: TBL Rosters 2015/16 Mistakes, tweaks, etc (NORTH AMERICA

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Manimal wrote:I thought the game had solved the rights issue, but it seems it has gotten worse.
Do you think it's even worse? My opinion is that nothing has changed, can you explain a little more?
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danny111 wrote:Jakub Voracek 8-year, $66 million contract
I had Voráceks extension in but spelled him Voracek so that's the reason it's not there
Alessandro wrote:
Manimal wrote:I thought the game had solved the rights issue, but it seems it has gotten worse.
Do you think it's even worse? My opinion is that nothing has changed, can you explain a little more?
The loss of rights for players in college was not happening before
I am talking with Riz about these things
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Dallas Stars should still have the rights to Niklas Hansson and Dmitri Sinitsyn for one more season atleast and Modano's number 9 jersey should be retired.
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Are NTCs still decided by the game? I know in the past the game decided which contracts had NTCs. I can't remember if it was ever made so you guys could put it in the DB. If it is something you can dictate, the Bruins don't seem to have any NTCs.
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the game doesn't start in 2015. It still starts in 2014 with the 2014 schedule. ](*,)
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Djungelurban wrote:Dallas Stars should still have the rights to Niklas Hansson and Dmitri Sinitsyn for one more season atleast and Modano's number 9 jersey should be retired.
Read before posting, please
dani9 wrote:AHL Midwest Division should be named Central Division (according standings page at theahl.com) and Pacific Division doesn't show up it's name from dropdown menu in standings page (you can click on the empty space there to see the standings)
McDavid97 wrote:the game doesn't start in 2015. It still starts in 2014 with the 2014 schedule. ](*,)
My game starts in 2015 with the divisions named Central and Pacific
bruins72 wrote:Are NTCs still decided by the game? I know in the past the game decided which contracts had NTCs. I can't remember if it was ever made so you guys could put it in the DB. If it is something you can dictate, the Bruins don't seem to have any NTCs.
No, we can't edit this
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Manimal wrote:
Djungelurban wrote:Dallas Stars should still have the rights to Niklas Hansson and Dmitri Sinitsyn for one more season atleast and Modano's number 9 jersey should be retired.
Read before posting, please
dani9 wrote:AHL Midwest Division should be named Central Division (according standings page at theahl.com) and Pacific Division doesn't show up it's name from dropdown menu in standings page (you can click on the empty space there to see the standings)
McDavid97 wrote:the game doesn't start in 2015. It still starts in 2014 with the 2014 schedule. ](*,)
My game starts in 2015 with the divisions named Central and Pacific
bruins72 wrote:Are NTCs still decided by the game? I know in the past the game decided which contracts had NTCs. I can't remember if it was ever made so you guys could put it in the DB. If it is something you can dictate, the Bruins don't seem to have any NTCs.
No, we can't edit this
I'm currently at Uni where they block my connection to steam. I assume this is the culprit. The game can't update (I haven't played in a long time)
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If your game hasn't updated, your game isn't capable of starting in 2015. This was part of an update in early October.
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bruins72 wrote:If your game hasn't updated, your game isn't capable of starting in 2015. This was part of an update in early October.
I got it now haha
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It's still the 2014 schedule. Even in 2015. You still play the 2014 schedule.
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McDavid97 wrote:It's still the 2014 schedule. Even in 2015. You still play the 2014 schedule.
Not a database issue.
You need to tell it on the SIGames forum
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Voracek's contract extension cap hit is also wrong. It shows 4250000 in the extra config file, it should be 8250000.
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Not sure if it's the thread to post, but I have simmed three seasons (3 times one season) and McDavid is far below expectations. 31 points (15g/16a), 28 (14/14) and 34 (16/18) respectably

Eichel does far better with 50+ in every sim. Even Daniel Sprong, 3rd/4th liner in Pittsburgh, has an average of 33 points. Yeah, Oilers are still pretty bad, finishing bottom 4 in every sim, but still, McDavid should be better(?)
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Satyr wrote:Not sure if it's the thread to post, but I have simmed three seasons (3 times one season) and McDavid is far below expectations. 31 points (15g/16a), 28 (14/14) and 34 (16/18) respectably

Eichel does far better with 50+ in every sim. Even Daniel Sprong, 3rd/4th liner in Pittsburgh, has an average of 33 points. Yeah, Oilers are still pretty bad, finishing bottom 4 in every sim, but still, McDavid should be better(?)
That's weird. I had him on an average (in my sim tests, 8 of them) of 59 points in the first season. 80 points in the second. One time he did 98 points in the second. But usually Oilers almost made the playoffs then, so it sounds like it's a "team" thing. If they're doing really bad in your sims, then it's no surprise he doesn't score much.

Eichel I had on an average of 47 points.

Here's a screenshot of a random sim test I took.
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Post by jesterx7769 »

So I'm pretty sure the draft lottery is messed up, either a roster thing or a game engine thing.

Per the draft lottery "the top 14 teams have a chance to win the lottery, teams cannot move back more than one spot"

I have run several tests with the challenge database since I thought it looked funny to me the first time.

Here is just one example

Sabers win, but finished 20th, (11th overall best chance to win)

so no one else should fall more than one spot right since the non-#1 team won?

2. Avalanche (10t best odds, finished 8 higher!?)
3. Coyotes from Rangers (6th best, somehow improved 3 spots!?)
4. Panthers (1st best odds, dropped 3)
5. Coyotes (2nd best odds, dropped 3 spots)

Not sure what the cause is but its clearly not matching the overall standings.
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They have a lottery for each of the first three spots now.
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thanks, they should update the in game text then
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Travis Sanheim is underestimated
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There are some NHL-players who need to get their handedness/catching gloves changed:

Darcy Kuemper, catches right -> catches left
Keith Kinkaid, cathes right -> catches left

Rasmus Rissanen, shoots right -> shoots left
Ian Cole, shoots right -> shoots left
Victor Bartley, shoots right -> shoots left
Darnell Nurse, shoots right -> shoots left

Devante Smith-Pelly, shoots left -> shoots right
Torrey Mitchell, shoots left -> shoots right
Corey Tropp, shoots left -> shoots right
Cory Conacher, shoots right -> shoots left
Zack Smith, shoots right -> shoots left
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David Pastrnak aswell, should shoot right.
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DUCKS
*Bieksa seems a bit overrated in the game, he's ranked third amongst the Ducks d-men and from what I've seen and read of him he's more like 5th or 6th after Lindholm, Fowler, Vatanen and Despres.
*Brandon Montour needs to be looked at, IRL he's one of Gulls best d-men and Ducks have high hopes of him. He's almost considered as good as Shea Theodore.
*Nick Ritchie strength and hitting of 13 seems a bit low?
*Kevin Roy needs a boost in his technical skills, especially deking, passing and stickhandling, also his creativity. Very fun player to watch.
*Ryan Getzlafs wristshot of 12 seems a bit low, as does hitting of 13 and his poor skating. He has a very good shot which he unfortunately doesn't use too often.
*Corey Perry almost never fires a slapshot so I think it's a bit high.
*As mentioned earlier Silfverberg seems a bit high on his physical attributes, skating and strength and his wristshot needs a boost to at least 15-16.
*Chris Stewart should have number 29 and he could use a boost in his stickhandling, 10->12 and his wristshot, 10->14.
*Santorelli should have #25, Khudobin #30, Josh Manson #42, Max Friberg (stickhandling too high, shot too low) #43.
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We haven't bothered with jersey numbers
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While i agree that Silfverberg has a great wristshot, there are some problems with setting it that high, he will score WAY too much. Fact is that he is yet to score 15 in the NHL. Another thing on the Ducks is that Hagelins technical attributes needs ALOT of lowering, in every game i've played he's a 40 goal scorer, sure he's next to Getz-Perry but that's still completely unrealistic, he's a 20+20 (at best) player no matter who he plays with.
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Also in the coaching category, Dan Bylsma's attributes couldn't be any further off than they are. Had you done the opposite it would have been more fitting. Specifically his in game management. He refuses to match lines or make adjustments and this is listed as the type of coach that he is. You have also listed him as a strict disciplinarian which again, he lets his veterans runs the show. The only form of discipline he uses is towards younger players and rookies (an area that he is awful in working with btw). All of this is firmly documented and well known from his time with the Pens as well as his trainwreck of a coaching job for team USA in the Olympics.

A few more observations on the Penguins/others:

Chris Kunitz has way to much value. WAY WAY to much as he is a shell of his former self.

Marc Andre Fleury is grossly underrated given his performance the past 2 seasons (and the beginning of this season).

Mike Hoffman at only 2 stars in the trade window?
Anders Lee is much more valuable as well.

Furthermore, John Klingberg had a rating of 4stars when I traded for him and his value since acquiring him has dropped significantly despite his in game performance.

Derrick Pouliot listed as a 3 star prospect while far more marginal players/prospects are rated higher.

Not complaining as y'all have done a tremendous job and I love playing with these rosters. Just offering some insight in order to help possible future updates.
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rhynosnail wrote:Mike Hoffman at only 2 stars in the trade window?
Anders Lee is much more valuable as well.

Furthermore, John Klingberg had a rating of 4stars when I traded for him and his value since acquiring him has dropped significantly despite his in game performance.

Derrick Pouliot listed as a 3 star prospect while far more marginal players/prospects are rated higher.

Not complaining as y'all have done a tremendous job and I love playing with these rosters. Just offering some insight in order to help possible future updates.
Those stars in the trading window we can do nothing about. (Just higher their reputation) Hoffman/Lee are both great in-game and produce nice numbers, making them even better isn't realistic.
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