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College prospect not interested in signing?

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I do not want the rights to this prospect to expire but he is not interested in signing. Originally, all of the statuses had "#" i.e. Player not interested in this role. I am not sure what changed. Has anybody encountered this? Is there something I am missing or does he just not want to sign with my team?

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Who knows. Maybe he'll come around. Wait til next season.
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I guess I'll have to. I've seen players not interested in signing, but a prospect with no interest in any status threw me off.
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If you haven't offered him a contract try offering him one. He might accept in spite of what he says.
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Also, offer him more than 'hot prospect' status when you can, often players rather want to finish college/university if they know they're not going to get a lot of playing time. if you offer them a big time position they're much more eager to forego University.
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College prospects usually aren't too keen on leaving midseason. They are much more likely to sign in the offseason.
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CeeBee wrote:If you haven't offered him a contract try offering him one. He might accept in spite of what he says.
I offered but he rejected it. I'll try again at the end of the season.
deknegt wrote:Also, offer him more than 'hot prospect' status when you can, often players rather want to finish college/university if they know they're not going to get a lot of playing time. if you offer them a big time position they're much more eager to forego University.
I started with Key Player (or whatever the highest status is) but then it was reset to hot prospect after I offered the contract. Had never seen that before.
Asher413 wrote:College prospects usually aren't too keen on leaving midseason. They are much more likely to sign in the offseason.
This is the first college player I've ever been very keen on signing. I've never had a CHL or European prospect (who I own the rights for) express disinterest in signing. I hope he doesn't turn out like Mike Reilly this past summer burning the Blue Jackets to become a free agent.
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CHL/European prospects generally want to sign anyways, players going to college want to go there because they want a degree and the moment they turn pro they burn their eligibility to be able to play collegiate hockey AND lose their claim to scholarships... In real life, and in game too (I guess). Even if it's a super-talent like that Armstrong kid...

I'm not sure, but I was pretty sure that the NHL rights-rules are amended for College-bound players, as in their rights won't expire as long as they're NCAA players. So where a CHL player has his rights expire when they turn 21-22 (without signing a contract), an NCAA player will have his rights extended until his 23-24th as to give that kid a chance to finish college, and to not burn the rights-holders in allowing them to go to college. It works like that IRL, and I am pretty sure it works in EHM:EA too...

Also, how on earth did you find such a gem in the 7th round in the first place?! Wow!
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deknegt wrote:...an NCAA player will have his rights extended until his 23-24th as to give that kid a chance to finish college, and to not burn the rights-holders in allowing them to go to college.
Thank you for the explanation. I looked into the CBA and didn't realize that NCAA players got until their fourth June 1. Makes sense.
deknegt wrote:Also, how on earth did you find such a gem in the 7th round in the first place?! Wow!
Probably because everybody else knew he wasn't going to sign for another 4 years ](*,) :razz:

But really... I vaguely remember reading somewhere in these forums that good physical stats and a big paragraph in the scout report is a good indication of a good player. In the later rounds I typically just look for speedy guys. He popped up, I checked the scout report and saw a full paragraph written about him, so I took him. I'm a little weary and skeptical about why he fell so far though...

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Well if he never pans out offensively and just stagnates, you'd still have a good if not great third line checking center who can pass very well. His stickhandling is too low for my own liking, since I like my players to be safe with the puck, but i'd kill for such a checking/power forward, really.
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Or decent trade bait!
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I have same problem, my drafted prospect is from America, he is fresh 18 years old - I tried to sign him (max. contract for entry contract with HUGE signing bonus), but he is not interested in joining team. Maybe he just wants to complete high school or university (I don't know how is school system in America)
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I've had a few really good prospects from Russia and Czech Republic turn down contracts. I tried for over a year and they just kept saying no, I ended up trading them for other decent prospects.

I like to think they just preferred playing for their country (like the KHL). I sort of feel bad for trading their rights at all, as I doubt they'd realistically be traded for the quality of players I got back. Then again I am playing as the Oilers and few people want to come to Edmonton anyway. :) Perhaps they'd consider L.A.
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EK65 wrote:I have same problem, my drafted prospect is from America, he is fresh 18 years old - I tried to sign him (max. contract for entry contract with HUGE signing bonus), but he is not interested in joining team. Maybe he just wants to complete high school or university (I don't know how is school system in America)
United States college players will almost NEVER sign during the season. You have to wait until at least April/May/June before bothering to offer them a contract. Also, they will usually want to finish 2 or 3 seasons in college before going pro.
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