Board only allows about to 8.8 Mill per year.

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Hello, i've ran into a problem. I've had a few seasons and often the top players I.E taylor hall ask for 10 mill when their contract expires... And the board only allows for 8mil per year. I'm confused to why this is. I've won the cup and everything... Very odd. Plus i make sure i have a lot of cap space.

[nino33]

I'm confused to why this is. I've won the cup and everything... Very odd. Plus i make sure i have a lot of cap space.

I think it's Budget you need to worry about and not Salary Cap (not every team will have a Budget that is equal to the Salary Cap).

Also, what Status have you set for the player? i.e. Key, Core, Depth, etc
The Status you give to the player will affect what the Board will allow for a contract

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yeah i think you're right, i've sim'd a few seasons and had some good runs its weird its stayed at 8.8 mill esp when elite talent expects 10mill a year. And yes i've tried all different statuses 8mill is max.

[Stormsky]

I believe it is tied to the player budget. Even if it is at or above the salary cap you should keep asking your board to increase it. When I ran into this problem I wanted to know what affects it. I used the Assistant to bump up player budget to 25% above the salary cap and suddenly the board was fine with offering the maximum contracts to key players.

[Bam_Margera]

I'm having exactly the same situation. Taylor Hall wants 11m, Cap space is 14m, Total Player Salaries are >20m less than Player Budget. Yet the board only allows 9m as a max... I am tempted to use Archibalduk's DB Editor^^

Ok, re-reading Stormsky's post I see for the first time that I can request stuff from the board Ok, I'll be investeigating the "Action" button on all available screens now

Sadly, demanding for more funds only gave me 19m for transfer funds (useless in the NHL?), but the max. allowed for contracts did not increase.

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After 700 hours of gameplay i can tell you it's a bug, you must start negotiations before june 30th regardless of what the player says.

[nino33]

After 700 hours of gameplay i can tell you it's a bug, you must start negotiations before june 30th regardless of what the player says.

What's a bug? From what I'm reading it's a case of things working correctly, as the Oilers Player Budget is $67.0 million.....that's total for all contracted players, not just those in the NHL

AFAIK you can go over the Team Budget, and mostly there's little to no consequence.....but Team Budget seems to have an affect on the amount an owner allows you to offer, and I suspect being over it means you're more limited & even if you're not I can see being limited...not all teams have wallets of equal size HaHa (and richer teams have bigger Team Budgets.....the Leafs Team Budget is $73.0 million, the Rangers $76.0 million, but the Oilers are a "small market team" (like Nashville, which has a $62.0 million Team Budget & the Jets, who have a Team Budget of $61.0 million)


And I don't understand the June 30th reference.....that's the day contracts expire! You should start negotiations months before a contract expires

[nino33]

I'm having exactly the same situation. Taylor Hall wants 11m, Cap space is 14m, Total Player Salaries are >20m less than Player Budget. Yet the board only allows 9m as a max

Salary Cap is 71.4 million, Oilers Team Budget is 67.0 million which is 4.4 million less than the Cap.....so if you have 14 million in Cap space you only have 9.6 million in Team Budget available....and AFAIK Team Budget is all salaries, not just your NHL team (so all your AHL/ECHL salaries too)

Seems the owner is not allowing you to offer more than the Team Budget says you have

[Bam_Margera]

I'm having exactly the same situation. Taylor Hall wants 11m, Cap space is 14m, Total Player Salaries are >20m less than Player Budget. Yet the board only allows 9m as a max

Salary Cap is 71.4 million, Oilers Team Budget is 67.0 million which is 4.4 million less than the Cap.....so if you have 14 million in Cap space you only have 9.6 million in Team Budget available....and AFAIK Team Budget is all salaries, not just your NHL team (so all your AHL/ECHL salaries too)

Seems the owner is not allowing you to offer more than the Team Budget says you have

No, it's as I wrote. The player budget may increase over the seasons. (Note that meanwhile I did some signings, thus the Cap Space, Total Salaries changed)

[nino33]

How did the Team Budget get up to 85.5 million? If that naturally happened that seems like the "bug" (and with a 10 Market Size too!).....almost seems like the game is ignoring the excessive Team Budget (I know there's ingame "sanity checks" on values, not sure about finances though.....financial details/changes haven't really been uncovered in EHM1 yet, hopefully when Archi's Editor is done we'll know more)

[Bam_Margera]

How did the Team Budget get up to 85.5 million? If that naturally happened that seems like the "bug" (and with a 10 Market Size too!).....almost seems like the game is ignoring the excessive Team Budget (I know there's ingame "sanity checks" on values, not sure about finances though.....financial details/changes haven't really been uncovered in EHM1 yet, hopefully when Archi's Editor is done we'll know more)

Well, in my case the player budget increased gradually over the seasons, which I assumed to be normal (why shouldn't it change?). I did not fiddle with the database.

[nino33]

How did the Team Budget get up to 85.5 million? If that naturally happened that seems like the "bug" (and with a 10 Market Size too!).....almost seems like the game is ignoring the excessive Team Budget (I know there's ingame "sanity checks" on values, not sure about finances though.....financial details/changes haven't really been uncovered in EHM1 yet, hopefully when Archi's Editor is done we'll know more)

Well, in my case the player budget increased gradually over the seasons, which I assumed to be normal (why shouldn't it change?). I did not fiddle with the database.

Riz has clarified a few times now that finances are not dynamic in EHM (they're not coded to change significantly).
While I suspect some limited/reasonable "owner finances" fluctuation is intended, increasing by 27% in 5 years is a huge increase.....I just can't see it being intended

Oilers are a "small market team" - are there multiple teams with Team Budgets near 100 million now?
Edmonton starts at 67.0 million with a 10 Market Size.....Chicago starts at 77.0 million with a 15 market size, Toronto starts at 73.0 million with a 19 Market Size, Flyers are at 74.0 million with a 19 Market Size, Rangers are at 76.0 million with a 20 Market Size - are some/all these teams now at/over 100 million for Team Budget?

Anybody else have NHL teams increasing Team Budgets to 85.0 million or more?

[Bam_Margera]

How did the Team Budget get up to 85.5 million? If that naturally happened that seems like the "bug" (and with a 10 Market Size too!).....almost seems like the game is ignoring the excessive Team Budget (I know there's ingame "sanity checks" on values, not sure about finances though.....financial details/changes haven't really been uncovered in EHM1 yet, hopefully when Archi's Editor is done we'll know more)

Well, in my case the player budget increased gradually over the seasons, which I assumed to be normal (why shouldn't it change?). I did not fiddle with the database.

Riz has clarified a few times now that finances are not dynamic in EHM (they're not coded to change significantly).
While I suspect some limited/reasonable "owner finances" fluctuation is intended, increasing by 27% in 5 years is a huge increase.....I just can't see it being intended

Oilers are a "small market team" - are there multiple teams with Team Budgets near 100 million now?
Edmonton starts at 67.0 million with a 10 Market Size.....Chicago starts at 77.0 million with a 15 market size, Toronto starts at 73.0 million with a 19 Market Size, Flyers are at 74.0 million with a 19 Market Size, Rangers are at 76.0 million with a 20 Market Size - are some/all these teams now at/over 100 million for Team Budget?

Anybody else have NHL teams increasing Team Budgets to 85.0 million or more?

I added some GMs in my save:
CHI: 85.5m
TOR: 85.5m
PHI: 85.5m
NYR: 85.5m

It seems to be the in-game "player budget cap".

edit: Apart from that. Why would EDM be set at 67m? They had a cap hit of 75.7m in 15/16 according to nhlnumbers.com. That does not include the majority of AHL-contracts. With the backing from Katz Group I don't see them as a budget team.

[nino33]

edit: Apart from that. Why would EDM be set at 67m? They had a cap hit of 75.7m in 15/16 according to nhlnumbers.com.

How could they have a "cap hit" that's 4.3 million over the Salary Cap?

As for the amounts/details in the database regarding finances, they'll be reviewed/updated this summer

EDIT - I posted about this issue over at SI in the Bugs Forum http://community.sigames.com/showthread ... -5-million

[Bam_Margera]

edit: Apart from that. Why would EDM be set at 67m? They had a cap hit of 75.7m in 15/16 according to nhlnumbers.com.

How could they have a "cap hit" that's 4.3 million over the Salary Cap?

A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5% of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:

The player is on an entry-level contract.
The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).

Signing Bonuses are rewarded upon the signing of a player’s contract and are paid to the player regardless of buyouts, or performance.

Performance Bonuses are paid to a player if the requirements of the bonus are met, and are given over the course of the season as they are met.

[nino33]

I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the idea that Edmonton paid the most in bonus money last year in the NHL, and paid the second most out in total salary

I found the nhlnumbers page http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams?year=2016 - any idea why it shows 0 Players Signed for Edmonton, Calgary and Anaheim?


EDIT - isn't "cap hit" just a number on paper? and the amount of money that teams actually need available to pay players is the salaries added up?

[Manimal]

Cap hit and actual salary does not need to be the same.

Team budget can be higher than cap if it includes all signed players

[nino33]

Cap hit and actual salary does not need to be the same.

Totally agree/understand!