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Named wrote:I saw few players left to NHL immediately but not sure how it works. Sometimes draft choices can move immediately, sometimes not.
It doesn't matter in the game if a player has recently been drafted by an NHL team and the team still holds the player's rights. If that prospect signed in the KHL before signing in the NHL, he'll only join his NHL team when his current contract ends.
So basically everything his the same for everyone, NHL rights or not.
If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.
If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).
If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.
If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).
I don't see it that way myself; IMO EHM is intended to be a simulation/approximation of real life (given one developer/limited time), I don't think EHM is intended to be a generic "fair" or be a sandbox type game for fantasy play (though with some editing efforts a lot can be achieved, and likely a lot more in the future - as Archi has noted, we're just "scratching the surface" on what we know about the editing options...maybe what you're talking about will be achievable)
If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.
If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).
I don't see it that way myself; IMO EHM is intended to be a simulation/approximation of real life (given one developer/limited time), I don't think EHM is intended to be a generic "fair" or be a sandbox type game for fantasy play (though with some editing efforts a lot can be achieved, and likely a lot more in the future - as Archi has noted, we're just "scratching the surface" on what we know about the editing options...maybe what you're talking about will be achievable)
Well, while I agree with your vision on EHM being first and foremost a realistic simulation, it's not like KHL (or other leagues') teams can't talk with agents once a player's contract is about to end...
If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.
If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).
I don't see it that way myself; IMO EHM is intended to be a simulation/approximation of real life (given one developer/limited time), I don't think EHM is intended to be a generic "fair" or be a sandbox type game for fantasy play (though with some editing efforts a lot can be achieved, and likely a lot more in the future - as Archi has noted, we're just "scratching the surface" on what we know about the editing options...maybe what you're talking about will be achievable)
Well, while I agree with your vision on EHM being first and foremost a realistic simulation, it's not like KHL (or other leagues') teams can't talk with agents once a player's contract is about to end...
Also, the rarity and uniqueness of the few times an NHL player has been "signed away" by another team doesn't IMO make it realistic to add; the NHL is unequivocally the #1 League and players worldwide want to come to/play in the NHL...that's why the (NHL) Release Clause exists
But would the tampering rule effect a team outside the NHL?
(Interesting rule nonetheless. In Gretzky's book he says multiple teams approached him before his contract ran out, so obviously it's a relatively new rule)
So, when a team signs a players on July 1st at 00:01 you think they had a 60-second negotiation?
Maybe it's out there, but I couldn't find the actual times of Free Agent signings to see if what you're saying (signing at 00:01) even occurs...I did find out that in the new CBA there's something called an "NHL Free Agency Interview Period" that allows for teams/agents to talk over 6 days prior to July 1st http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/how- ... ee-agency/
nino33 wrote:
Also, the rarity and uniqueness of the few times an NHL player has been "signed away" by another team doesn't IMO make it realistic to add; the NHL is unequivocally the #1 League and players worldwide want to come to/play in the NHL...that's why the (NHL) Release Clause exists
This is not only question about taking somebody out of NHL, if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility. Isn' t this happening also IRL? In the end of course NHL teams will get most of the players as NHL is richest league in world (not so sure about strength anymore after that last Victoria cup loss).
But returning to thread topic as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?
janks wrote:if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility.....as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?
As I've mentioned before, I haven't actually used the Editor yet, but I thought andda's post (below) indicated you could maybe give more leagues a "foreign clause" - I don't know what "foreign clause" actually means, and if ingame it's an NHL Release Clause (which isn't what you're looking for) or if it allows for any League to offer contracts to signed players - you'll have to experiment and find out (and then if you posted your results that'd be helpful)
andda715 wrote:The flag below sounds like it might be related to the KHL/NHL contract situation:
Transfer Rules --> Extra Rules --> Contract disallowed foreign clause
At least it is true for NHL & KHL, but not for most (all?) others.
It's also bit strange that my best players are not approached. I still suspect it was connected with my decision to make that specific player (Loktionov) available and seting sales value for him. I thought also C. Genoway agreed to move to NHL team (I didn' t make him available) but cannot confirm it now looking at his information and contract tabs.
Manimal wrote:"Tampering" is allowed between European teams IRL.
They can negotiate on new contracts whenever they want to
How about the "release clause" issue IRL? Do contracts actually have to be fulfilled by players? Or can they be "signed away" by another League and leave at the end of the season (or sooner?) despite having years left on their current contract?
Manimal wrote:"Tampering" is allowed between European teams IRL.
They can negotiate on new contracts whenever they want to
How about the "release clause" issue IRL? Do contracts actually have to be fulfilled by players? Or can they be "signed away" by another League and leave at the end of the season (or sooner?) despite having years left on their current contract?
If they have years remaining then they need a "release clause".
SHL players often have specific clauses for KHL or Swiss NLA.
Contracts are often "taken over" by other teams, though. If a team is unhappy with a player here, they sometimes say they are looking for another team to take over the contract. Straight out releasing a player can come with a cost so agents are told to go find a new team for the player and then the teams and the player makes a transfer agreement that all three parts has to agree upon.
janks wrote:if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility.....as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?
As I've mentioned before, I haven't actually used the Editor yet, but I thought andda's post (below) indicated you could maybe give more leagues a "foreign clause" - I don't know what "foreign clause" actually means, and if ingame it's an NHL Release Clause (which isn't what you're looking for) or if it allows for any League to offer contracts to signed players - you'll have to experiment and find out (and then if you posted your results that'd be helpful)
andda715 wrote:The flag below sounds like it might be related to the KHL/NHL contract situation:
Transfer Rules --> Extra Rules --> Contract disallowed foreign clause
At least it is true for NHL & KHL, but not for most (all?) others.
I tested activating the Contract disallowed foreign clause in Germany / DEL and it's working for newly signed player within that league. There is no more the option to add the clause. However all players that have the foreign clause already attached to their current contract upon starting game keep the clause and the ability to join at the first available transfer window if signing with a NHL team (there is no way to edit the clause in current contract). So after the first 2-3 years the league should not lose any players to the NHL until their contract expires.
It appears that this clause is only for the NHL as I could approach any team in (Finland, Sweden, etc) while managing a team in the DEL and you can approach to buy any player (clause or not) who's already contracted but both the team and the player need to accept the transfer, which I was unable to do since one of them would always refuse.
I noticed there's an option for the max number of teams in the league for the NHL. I remember last year with EHM assistant I was having trouble adding expansion teams due to a mismatch between the max number of teams in the league not equaling the real number of teams due to the added expansion teams. Will bumping that number allow us to make and add expansion teams into the game?EDIT: read through another post and found this is possible
Also, I was messing around and made a blank team to do a free-agents only run. I have two questions about this:
1. It's easy to manually remove contracted players from teams, but I wasn't sure how to remove player's rights in game. This isn't really an issue because you can release their rights with no consequence. However, for players on loan such as Jakob Chychrun (yes I removed the Yotes, suck it), I have to recall them from loan and release the player (buy-out style) and thus take a cap hit. It's not that big of a deal but I was wondering if there's a way to fix this.
2. Is it possible to move the start date back to give yourself more time to sign free agents before the season begins. I had an issue in that game where a lot of free agents would hold out on me to around the beginning of the season before accepting or denying my offers. I guess I could always sim a year and then remove players from teams in EHM assistant right after the draft or something like that.
I don't know why but this post ended up in the wrong thread. Oops
janks wrote:if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility.....as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?
As I've mentioned before, I haven't actually used the Editor yet, but I thought andda's post (below) indicated you could maybe give more leagues a "foreign clause" - I don't know what "foreign clause" actually means, and if ingame it's an NHL Release Clause (which isn't what you're looking for) or if it allows for any League to offer contracts to signed players - you'll have to experiment and find out (and then if you posted your results that'd be helpful)
andda715 wrote:The flag below sounds like it might be related to the KHL/NHL contract situation:
Transfer Rules --> Extra Rules --> Contract disallowed foreign clause
At least it is true for NHL & KHL, but not for most (all?) others.
I tested activating the Contract disallowed foreign clause in Germany / DEL and it's working for newly signed player within that league. There is no more the option to add the clause. However all players that have the foreign clause already attached to their current contract upon starting game keep the clause and the ability to join at the first available transfer window if signing with a NHL team (there is no way to edit the clause in current contract). So after the first 2-3 years the league should not lose any players to the NHL until their contract expires.
It appears that this clause is only for the NHL as I could approach any team in (Finland, Sweden, etc) while managing a team in the DEL and you can approach to buy any player (clause or not) who's already contracted but both the team and the player need to accept the transfer, which I was unable to do since one of them would always refuse.
Default for KHL is disallowed foreign clause, and players don't have any clauses in their contracts so this will not help.
By aproaching player you probably mean buy otion under which both team and player should agree - this is not the case here as I didn't agree on player transfer.
nino33 wrote:I did find out that in the new CBA there's something called an "NHL Free Agency Interview Period" that allows for teams/agents to talk over 6 days prior to July 1st http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/how- ... ee-agency/
Just come across situation where NHL teams approach players under contract, make offer and players leave at the end of season - not only at the end of their current contract! So this is even worse. This happens under ->Contract disallowed foreign clause for whole league so player doesn't have any release clause!
NY Devils (NHL) signed Drew Doughty from LA Kings playing in Champions league (based on KHL). Transfer was arranged at the end of season while Doughty still has three more years on contract with Kings.
Also find two more - Dallas Stars signed Voynov from LA Kings and Buffalo Sabres Nono Niederreiter from Wild (also Champions league) - the same story as with Doughty. Probably there are more such cases.
