[2025-26] xECK29x's Premier Pivot Database (v10.0.3 - 7/29/25)

This is the place to discuss database or roster projects for Eastside Hockey Manager. Any queries about data editing should be asked in the Data Editing Forum.
Forum rules
Data Editing Forum: Editing the game, databases or saved games. Home of the EHM Editor and the EHM Assistant.

Game Add-ons Forum: Database projects, graphics and sounds. Any discussion which does not relate to editing databases or saved games.

Game Knowledge Discussion: Attributes, coaching, drafting, scouting, tactics and training/practice.

Rosters Forum: Discussion relating to all database and roster projects for Eastside Hockey Manager.

Technical Support: Difficulties, crashes and errors when installing or running the game (and nothing else). Any issues relating to the TBL Rosters must be posted in the TBL Rosters forum. Questions about how to install add-ons must be posted in the Game Add-ons Forum.

General EHM Chat: Anything relating to Eastside Hockey Manager 2004 / 2005 / 2007 / 1 which does not fall within any of the other forums.

Please carry out a forum search before you start a new thread.
Post Reply
scorndefeat
Junior League
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:15 am
Favourite Team: Pittsburgh Penguins

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by scorndefeat »

xECK29x wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:16 pm - Reset all NHL/AHL player & staff reputations to align with CA, I'm really interested to see how this improves the sim
That is an interesting construct that I have thought about before. How did you go about the reset? Interested in knowing which formula was used.

Thanks!
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by xECK29x »

scorndefeat wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:39 am That is an interesting construct that I have thought about before. How did you go about the reset? Interested in knowing which formula was used.
Basically I did home and current reputation matches CA with a 20 point drop for world reputation. This starts the sim without anyone ranked as over or underrated, those develop through scouting and trends with the player/staff. I noticed I wasn't keeping reputation up with CA in the past and this lead to staff/players not being put in the right roles or good players traded/waived by the AI due to unrealistically low reputation.
User avatar
Wally_Wallcakes
Junior League
Posts: 13
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:55 am
Favourite Team: Edmonton Oilers

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by Wally_Wallcakes »

xECK29x wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:48 pm
scorndefeat wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:39 am That is an interesting construct that I have thought about before. How did you go about the reset? Interested in knowing which formula was used.
Basically I did home and current reputation matches CA with a 20 point drop for world reputation. This starts the sim without anyone ranked as over or underrated, those develop through scouting and trends with the player/staff. I noticed I wasn't keeping reputation up with CA in the past and this lead to staff/players not being put in the right roles or good players traded/waived by the AI due to unrealistically low reputation.
Huh. Very interesting.
User avatar
KevT90
Drafted
Posts: 176
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:03 am
Location: New-Brunswick, Canada

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by KevT90 »

So reputation is not tied to CA when starting the game (normally) ?
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by xECK29x »

kev90 wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:00 pm So reputation is not tied to CA when starting the game (normally) ?
Nope the starting values are defined in the database, if they are set to 0 they are auto generated (I assume based on CA).
scorndefeat
Junior League
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:15 am
Favourite Team: Pittsburgh Penguins

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by scorndefeat »

xECK29x wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Basically I did home and current reputation matches CA with a 20 point drop for world reputation. This starts the sim without anyone ranked as over or underrated, those develop through scouting and trends with the player/staff. I noticed I wasn't keeping reputation up with CA in the past and this lead to staff/players not being put in the right roles or good players traded/waived by the AI due to unrealistically low reputation.
I think this will pay dividends for a more realistic sim, especially as the years progress. The sim's overvaluing of reputation results in a lot of quirks, particularly the handling of declining older players (who still don't decline enough in ability) and contracts.

As a side note, is there a definitive answer on how the "overrated" and "underrated" Assistant GM tags are determined? Is current form factored into it? It seems to be pretty erratic from my experience.
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by xECK29x »

scorndefeat wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:42 pm As a side note, is there a definitive answer on how the "overrated" and "underrated" Assistant GM tags are determined? Is current form factored into it? It seems to be pretty erratic from my experience.
I believe it has to do with the gap (positive or negative) of 'Reputation: Home' vs 'Reputation: Current'
User avatar
KevT90
Drafted
Posts: 176
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:03 am
Location: New-Brunswick, Canada

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by KevT90 »

Tomas Plekanec contract should be $2,250,000 (currently $3,500,000)
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by xECK29x »

kev90 wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:58 am Tomas Plekanec contract should be $2,250,000 (currently $3,500,000)
Will fix
pretzalcoatl
Junior League
Posts: 18
Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:26 pm
Favourite Team: Capitals

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by pretzalcoatl »

Jakub Vrana's 17-18 season is missing and the game thinks he's a rookie
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by xECK29x »

pretzalcoatl wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:40 am Jakub Vrana's 17-18 season is missing and the game thinks he's a rookie
Career histories will be updated over time. The year one rookie calculation is a game bug, rookie status will be appropriate in your +1 years.
LordTony
Junior League
Posts: 11
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:06 pm
Favourite Team: Montreal Canadiens

Schedule Bug... Help

Post by LordTony »

So I keep getting an error message. I am using a custom ECK 2018-2019 Without Vegas db. So When I arrive in 2021 I keep getting a schedule error:

Image

I have heared that it is due to missing a team and that the Olympics can cause this... but I have no idea how to edit it and get it to work
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.8 - 10/13/18)

Post by xECK29x »

I assume you just removed Vegas from the League Structure? The whole schedule template would need to be modified. I can't really help you with this as I can't support modifications like this as it would require massive changes.
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by xECK29x »

Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/fil ... 1428241604
Non-Steam: http://bit.ly/2RjorYj

Logo Pack:
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1537850871
Non-Steam: http://bit.ly/2z9HAV1

General Updates:
- ** Increased NHL club contract limit to 60, this is due to the game lacking the ability to NOT count players signed to ELCs but assigned to juniors from counting against the 50 contract limit (some teams have close to 10 players assigned to junior teams at the start of the 2018-19 season). Increasing this so human/AI GMs don't have to waive/cut players immediately. If I find a way to implement this will revert back to 50.
- Fixed SHL/Allsvenskan relegation issue (I hope for the final time), thanks Shark Fin!
- Increased roster size limit to 30 from 23 for WHL, QMJHL and OHL clubs
- Updated Quebec Bantam AAA clubs
- Added transfer rules for Maritime Hockey League (MJAHL), copied QMJHL, league can now use player rights
- Added transfer rules for Manitoba Junior Hockey League (MJHL), copied WHL, league can now use player rights
- Added transfer rules for Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League (SJHL), copied WHL, league can now use player rights
- Added transfer rules for Greater Metro Hockey League (GMHL), copied OHL, league can now use player rights
- Added transfer rules for Central Canada Hockey League (CCHL), copied OHL, league can now use player rights
-- I understand that adding player rights to these leagues doesn't do anything special without an attached draft (which I cannot add), but at least it will mean players will have accurate rights and it may lead to some more player movement in the first few years of the sim.
- Ligue de Hockey de la Capitale (LHC)

Database Stablity/Optimization:
- Removed Swiss MySports League from human-playability due to possible crashing

NHL/AHL Updates:
- Anaheim Ducks + San Diego Gulls & prospects (player career histories, other details)
- Arizona Coyotes + Tucson Roadrunners & prospects (player career histories, other details)
- Boston Bruins + Providence & prospects (player career histories, staff and other details)
- Fixed career history duplicate/unknown teams for 20+ players (thanks HyperboleJoe!)
- Updated Colorado Avalanche/Eagles players/staff + reputation...can't believe I completely missed this organization!
- Removed Atlanta as the ECHL affiliate of Nashville/Milwaukee

ECHL Updates:
- Updated colors for Norfolk Admirals
- Adirondack Thunder (rivals, records, players & staff)
- Allen Americans (colors, rivals, records, players & staff)
- Atlanta Gladiators (arena, rivals, records, players & staff)

OHL Updates:
- Barrie Colts (attendance, club & player records, staff & players)

QMJHL Updates:
- Acadie-Bathurst Titan (arena, club & player records, retired numbers, staff & players)

WHL Updates:
- Brandon Wheat Kings (arena, staff & players)

Czech Updates:
- Renamed Czech Second League to Czech 2.Liga
- Removed Czech 2.Liga from human-playability
- Renamed Czech WSM Liga to Czech Chance Liga
- Updated league rules and structure for Chance Liga
- Promoted HC RT Torax Poruba to Chance Liga and updated reputation and attendance figures
- Updated league rules and schedule dates for Czech Tipsport Extraliga
- Updated attendance numbers for Tipsport clubs
- Bílí Tygri Liberec incl. U20/U16 (arena, affiliations, staff & players)

Finnish Updates:
- Ässät Incl. Jr A/B/C (arena, affiliations, staff & players)
- Renamed Finnish Junior First Division to Juniors Mestis and Second Division to Suomi-sarja for all levels
User avatar
Matee
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 pm
Favourite Team: ottawa

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by Matee »

Why removed Czech 2.Liga from human-playability? I cant manage now Draci Sumperk!!!
User avatar
Matee
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 pm
Favourite Team: ottawa

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by Matee »

Please add as playable Czech 2. Liga ( now with four 7-teams group) and Polish League. If you like, I can help you create the structure of these leagues. Keep up good work mate.
Greetings from Poland.
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by xECK29x »

Matee wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:43 pm Please add as playable Czech 2. Liga ( now with four 7-teams group) and Polish League. If you like, I can help you create the structure of these leagues. Keep up good work mate.
Greetings from Poland.
I had removed it because I don't really plan on keeping the league updated and to try to keep the DB as optimized as possible. I am really happy to see some folks playing with these leagues though! I kept an export of the league so I can look into adding it back in a future update.
User avatar
Matee
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 pm
Favourite Team: ottawa

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by Matee »

Thanks for the answer, mate. Good luck and keep up great work!
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by xECK29x »

I took at a look at the league setup here: https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/czech3

I would have to add additional divisions and stuff which I have never done before. I will make sure the teams are added/updated and the divisions are accurate but making them human-playable is beyond my knowledge of the league structures at this point. I'll maybe revisit this later in the year as I still have a lot of core updating to do.
User avatar
Matee
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:07 pm
Favourite Team: ottawa

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by Matee »

I have already done it. I have modified your 3.8 file in which I made the new league structure of the Czech 2. league.If you want, give me your email, I will send you this file and take a look at this.
User avatar
Kiekkomestari
Junior League
Posts: 39
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:46 pm

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by Kiekkomestari »

I noticed a bug in 2022 Olympics. Group A -games are for some reason scheduled to be played in 2025 and that stops Olympics advancing to the playoffs
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by xECK29x »

Kiekkomestari wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:57 am I noticed a bug in 2022 Olympics. Group A -games are for some reason scheduled to be played in 2025 and that stops Olympics advancing to the playoffs
Identified and fixed, will push in new update later in the week.
User avatar
KevT90
Drafted
Posts: 176
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:03 am
Location: New-Brunswick, Canada

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by KevT90 »

xECK29x wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:26 pm Career histories will be updated over time. The year one rookie calculation is a game bug, rookie status will be appropriate in your +1 years.
About players like Tomas Hertl, Mark Scheifele, Jonathan Huberdeau also counting as rookies ?
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by xECK29x »

kev90 wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:16 pm About players like Tomas Hertl, Mark Scheifele, Jonathan Huberdeau also counting as rookies ?
Yes applies to all rookies in the first year, looks like that rookie class is hard coded.
User avatar
xECK29x
TBL Rosters Researcher
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 2:52 pm
Custom Rank: Premier Pivot Rosters Man
Favourite Team: New York Islanders

[2018-19] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (v3.9 - 10/29/18)

Post by xECK29x »

v3.10 Update:

Not as much done this week as I would have liked, but want to make sure I keep my cadence.

Download:

Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/fil ... 1428241604
Non-Steam: http://bit.ly/2PqawDd

Logo Pack:
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1537850871
Non-Steam: http://bit.ly/2POBNPb

General Updates:

- Updated NHL signings, trades & staff hirings/firings (including the Fedun trade)
- Implemented BKarchitect's incredible work at making a fully playable RBC Cup Championship including all levels of Junior A hockey across Canada. Due to the structures of this tournament the player career histories will not be 100% accurate but it is very fun and adds an incredible amount of depth and more staff/players across the sim universe!
- Fixed Olympic Games group A scheduling bug.

NHL/AHL Updates:
- Buffalo Sabres + Rochester Americans + prospects (arena, records, staff & players)

ECHL Updates:
- Cincinnati Cyclones (records, rivals, staff + players)

OHL Updates:
- Erie Otters (attendance, club & player records, retired numbers, staff & players)

QMJHL Updates:
- Baie-Comeau Drakkar (arena, club & player records, retired numbers, staff & players)

WHL Updates:
- Calgary Hitmen (attendance, club & player records, staff & players)

Czech Updates:
- Updated Chance Liga (structure, clubs, schedule and players) and Czech 2.Liga (clubs and league structure and made human-playable) - thanks Matee!
- Bili Tygri Liberec (club + player records)
- BK Mlada Boleslav (club + player records, affiliations, players & staff)
Post Reply