xECK29x Premier Pivot & TBL Rosters - Crashes on specific dates in game

Hockeyiow86 · Post by **Hockeyiow86** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:34 pm

Still crashing in January despite all Belarusian leagues disabed

Post by **xECK29x** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:24 pm

Hockeyiow86 wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:34 pm Still crashing in January despite all Belarusian leagues disabed

Can you take a screen shot of the league selected and upload/share the save game? We really need save games right around the time of the crash to see what's going on and have them debugged.

Post by **xECK29x** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:45 pm

Crashing in late March 2022 with this save: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wt9t58gbvscbo ... 2.sav?dl=0

This is a test version of Pivot (to be 4.8) with prospect generator seeded.

Leagues selected:
Memorial Cup (OHL, QMJHL, WHL)
Czech Tipsport
Czech DHL
Finnish Liiga
Finnish SM-Liiga
DEL
KHL
MHL
SHL
Swedish J20
NLA
Swiss J20
AHL
ECHL
USHL
NAHL
NCAA Frozen Four

Going to retest without prospect generator, same leagues. These are the leagues i have always usually played with and have had minimal issues.

Post by **xECK29x** » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:31 pm

No crash on the next test (April 2022), same setup minus prospect generator, will ask @IAmActuallyAnOtter to do some testing with the same setup.

Post by **archibalduk** » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:43 pm

xECK29x wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:45 pm Crashing in late March 2022 with this save: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wt9t58gbvscbo ... 2.sav?dl=0

This is a test version of Pivot (to be 4.8) with prospect generator seeded.

I suggest sending a copy of the saved game plus database to Riz. There's only so much we can do with testing without going round in circles/losing out minds and I think at that point it's worth dropping an email to Riz.

Post by **xECK29x** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:09 pm

Ok will do, it looks like the Belarus Extraliga is still causing issues, so I will be removing that from both DBs in then next update.

Post by **xECK29x** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:45 pm

Seems some of the crash issues have been identified, related to invalid club affiliations.

ichbinsdamian · Post by **ichbinsdamian** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:27 pm

Hi there,
is there now a solution how to solve the problem in the game without restarting it? sorry my english is not so good.

firekos · Post by **firekos** » Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:41 pm

Database name and version number:
In-game date of crash: Fri Jan 24th EVE
Any error message displayed: No
Leagues selected as Enhanced: All
Leagues selected as View Only:
Add key staff (yes/no):no
Disable all extra staff (yes/no):no
Disable all extra staff (yes/no):no
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no):no
Add extra junior players (yes/no):no
Add players to national team pools (yes/no):no
Retail all teams (yes/no):no

Cause if nuttin can stop its being asking for a refund of my money for this game as its no fun just replaying the same 6 months over and over and Over again

My Save game (below)
https://ln2.sync.com/dl/3831ff380/3ji8i ... p-x8c2hd94

Post by **archibalduk** » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:54 pm

It's because you are running far too many leagues. The game has an internal limit as to the number of transfer rules settings it can load as the sheer volume of playable leagues we have in the TBL/Pivot Rosters was never envisaged. Hopefully this will be resolved for patch 1.5. In the meantime, only select a relatively small number of leagues - say 10 to maybe 20 max.

The crashes you're encountering are nothing to do with SI Games. These are errors we (as in third parties creating mods in our free time) can sometimes make when setting up playable leagues given their complexity. The crash you're encountering is simply a game limitation rather than a bug per se. If you run the DB which comes with the game, it should run fine.

firekos · Post by **firekos** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:30 pm

thanks i just restarted with a cut down of leagues hope it works for me. and another ? how can u add players to the game or is something that can only be done on your guys end

Post by **xECK29x** » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:25 pm

firekos wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:30 pm how can u add players to the game or is something that can only be done on your guys end

You can edit the database yourself via the EHM Editor: http://ehmtheblueline.com/editor. However, if players are missing that should be included in the DB I'd love to have you join as a researcher if you would like to address missing details for a specific league! Just reach out to me on Steam or Discord, or send me an email xeck29x @ gmail.com

Grentroz · Post by **Grentroz** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:46 pm

This might not be the right thread as it crashes before I can even select my team, feel free to move it to the appropriate place.

Database name and version number: Premier Pivot, v 4.9 (Large database)
In-game date of crash: Before I select my team, but right after selecting the detail levels
Any error message displayed: Nothing
Leagues selected as Enhanced: KHL, Finland Liiga, SHL, Memorial Cup (WHL, OHL, QJMHL), NHL, AHL, ECHL, NCAA Frozen Four
Leagues selected as View Only: None
Add key staff (yes/no): No
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): No
Add extra junior players (yes/no): No
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): No
Retain all teams (yes/no): Yes

I tried with all the mentionned league, except the NCAA Frozen Four and it seems to be working. There might be a bug with one of the NCAA Frozen four leagues

Post by **xECK29x** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:08 pm

Grentroz wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:46 pm This might not be the right thread as it crashes before I can even select my team, feel free to move it to the appropriate place.

Database name and version number: Premier Pivot, v 4.9 (Large database)
In-game date of crash: Before I select my team, but right after selecting the detail levels
Any error message displayed: Nothing
Leagues selected as Enhanced: KHL, Finland Liiga, SHL, Memorial Cup (WHL, OHL, QJMHL), NHL, AHL, ECHL, NCAA Frozen Four
Leagues selected as View Only: None
Add key staff (yes/no): No
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): No
Add extra junior players (yes/no): No
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): No
Retain all teams (yes/no): Yes

I tried with all the mentionned league, except the NCAA Frozen Four and it seems to be working. There might be a bug with one of the NCAA Frozen four leagues

First thing I would try is a simple re-download of the database with a unsubscribe/resubscribe on the Workshop (wait about 60 seconds before hitting subscribe again). I select those leagues as well as a few others in my test sims.

Sibirus · Post by **Sibirus** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:39 pm

Hello! Before selection team, if I add a VHL (2st Russian League in list) playable, the game crashes

Database name and version number: Premier Pivot, v 4.9 (Large database)
In-game date of crash: Before I select my team, but right after selecting the detail levels
Any error message displayed: Nothing
Leagues selected as Enhanced: KHL, Finland Liiga, NHL, VHL
Leagues selected as View Only: None
Add key staff (yes/no): No
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Disable all extra players(yes/no): Yes
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): No
Add extra junior players (yes/no): No
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): No
Retain all teams (yes/no): Yes

If i remove VHL with these settings, the game will start

UPD: After some game restarts, start game only with KHL + NHL with same settings - game crashed before selection team...

Post by **xECK29x** » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:35 pm

Sibirus wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:39 pm Hello! Before selection team, if I add a VHL (2st Russian League in list) playable, the game crashes

Database name and version number: Premier Pivot, v 4.9 (Large database)
In-game date of crash: Before I select my team, but right after selecting the detail levels
Any error message displayed: Nothing
Leagues selected as Enhanced: KHL, Finland Liiga, NHL, VHL
Leagues selected as View Only: None
Add key staff (yes/no): No
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Disable all extra players(yes/no): Yes
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): No
Add extra junior players (yes/no): No
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): No
Retain all teams (yes/no): Yes

If i remove VHL with these settings, the game will start

UPD: After some game restarts, start game only with KHL + NHL with same settings - game crashed before selection team...

Thanks for the report, will take a look. For the updated part sometimes if you experience this crash it will keep crashing no matter what leagues are selected until you restart your computer, I believe EHM doesn't clear itself completely out of memory when a crash like this happens and it keeps corrupting the game.

Update: Confirmed this selection of leagues as working in the current test DB. Happy to share the test DB with you for testing, just send me a PM or email to xeck29x @ gmail.com or add me on Steam.

jfriederich1 · Post by **jfriederich1** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:17 am

Hey, I am a huge fan of TBL and have been using your rosters for ages, I currently am a goalie in the Australian Ice Hockey League and just saw you guys added our league into your latest rosters, I would love to get involved and set up the whole league for you guys with all of the real players as I have been associated with the Adelaide Adrenaline for the past 3 seasons.

Hope to hear from you soon

Post by **xECK29x** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:32 am

jfriederich1 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:17 am Hey, I am a huge fan of TBL and have been using your rosters for ages, I currently am a goalie in the Australian Ice Hockey League and just saw you guys added our league into your latest rosters, I would love to get involved and set up the whole league for you guys with all of the real players as I have been associated with the Adelaide Adrenaline for the past 3 seasons.

Hope to hear from you soon

Hey man! Thanks for the support! We would love to have you as a researcher (and I would love to add you to the DB if you aren't there already). Please reach out to me directly on Steam via a friend request and PM or email me xeck29x @ gmail.com.

jjnhl68 · Post by **jjnhl68** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:05 pm

I have a problem with both TBL Rosters and Premier Pivot Rosters as I can't even start the game (can't pass the initialization). I've followed the instructions and I've tried with only NHL league selected, but game crashes every time.
I've already played EHM for a long time using 1998 TBL Retro Rosters without any issue. Only difference I have it downloaded to my PC.

Database name and version number: Premier Pivot, v 4.10 (Large database)
In-game date of crash: Before I select my team, but right after selecting the detail levels
Any error message displayed: Nothing
Leagues selected as Enhanced: NHL
Leagues selected as View Only: None/AHL, CHL, OHL,KHL+ few European
Add key staff (yes/no): No
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): Yes
Disable all extra players(yes/no): Yes
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): No
Add extra junior players (yes/no): No
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): No
Retain all teams (yes/no): Yes

Post by **xECK29x** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:02 pm

jjnhl68 wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:05 pm I have a problem with both TBL Rosters and Premier Pivot Rosters as I can't even start the game (can't pass the initialization). I've followed the instructions and I've tried with only NHL league selected, but game crashes every time.

Try rebooting the computer if possible, sometimes that seems to fix things.

HIFIcanadian · Post by **HIFIcanadian** » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:39 am

https://imgur.com/IHs9YxP

Database name and version number: TBL Rosters 12.3.1
In-game date of crash: Wednesday Oct 10th 2027
Any error message displayed: Runtime error (see picture)
Leagues selected as Enhanced: All but Swedish leagues/
Leagues selected as View Only: None
Add key staff (yes/no): No?
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): I dont know
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): I dont know
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): I dont know
Add extra junior players (yes/no): No
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): No
Retain all teams (yes/no):Yes

Post by **xECK29x** » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:29 pm

HIFIcanadian wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:39 am https://imgur.com/IHs9YxP

I believe you posted this on reddit.com/r/ehm as well? Did you modify the save game at all?

Buho · Post by **Buho** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:42 pm

what happened to extra_config file? why it's became allergic to "future_transfer" all of a sudden?

I downloaded latest version of xECK29x's rosters a couple of days ago and decided to add latest signings and extensions.
but for some unknown reason any (even the slightest) change made to .cfg file results in total inability to start a new game.
so I started to delete different blocks from extra_config (injuries, extensions etc.) and it appeared to be "future_transfer" that causes a crash.
if all "future_transfer" are removed then I can start a new game, but if try to put any of FTs back it crashes again. (.cfg can digest approx 10 FTs)

is there any way to fix this?

btw contract_extension only kicks in if player in question is with the main club. so Ville Husso and Niko Mikkola (both AHLs San Antinio) need to be fixed in DB. and Jack Campbell is now in TOR

Oepi · Post by **Oepi** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:10 pm

Database name and version number: TBL 12.3.1 (normal sizer database)
In-game date of crash: today, 24.03.2020
Any error message displayed: no, game closes at initializing game data
Leagues selected as Enhanced: both austrian leagues
Leagues selected as View Only: NHL
Add key staff (yes/no): no
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): no
Disable all extra staff (yes/no): no
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no): no
Add extra junior players (yes/no): no
Add players to national team pools (yes/no): no
Retain all teams (yes/no): no

Yesterday i could create a game and when i load this then everything is fine with this database. but if i create a new one i have no chance.

I also did not change anything on that database. I only had a copy of that where i did some changes but as i couldnt get that database running i did remove this one again. no other changes.

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:18 am

Database name and version number: TBL 12.3.1
In-game date of crash: Friday Jan 24th, 2020
Any error message displayed: No, game closes after sim all other games that day.
Leagues selected as Enhanced: All
Leagues selected as View Only: None
Add key staff (yes/no):
Disable all extra staff (yes/no):
Disable all extra staff (yes/no):
Add players to playable leagues (yes/no):
Add extra junior players (yes/no):
Add players to national team pools (yes/no):
Retain all teams (yes/no):

I can't remember what settings I used, I think it was the default ones for all of these.