Official™ NHL Trades/Deadline Deals Thread

Post by **joehelmer** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:25 pm

Here's list over those players who there's rumors about being traded before the deadline.

TSN's list of rumored players.

flea · Post by **flea** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:20 pm

Well, this is not a rumour, as the trade alreay happend....but if u guys are ok with it we could use this thread commenting trades and rumours.

The Bruins obtained a fourth round draft pick in 2008 from Washington in exchange for D Milan Jurcina.

Firstly I wasnt happy with this trade, as I like Jurcina and Brad Stuart is a UFA in june, but then, informing me a bit better, I realized that Milan was also a UFA at the end of the season I would probably leave anyway, so not bad Chia!!

Systemfel · Post by **Systemfel** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:07 am

Jurcina is a UFA this summer? Pretty sure he'll be an RFA.

Not a very good trade for Boston, I'd say.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:48 am

flea wrote:Well, this is not a rumour, as the trade alreay happend....but if u guys are ok with it we could use this thread commenting trades and rumours.

The Bruins obtained a fourth round draft pick in 2008 from Washington in exchange for D Milan Jurcina.

Firstly I wasnt happy with this trade, as I like Jurcina and Brad Stuart is a UFA in june, but then, informing me a bit better, I realized that Milan was also a UFA at the end of the season I would probably leave anyway, so not bad Chia!!

He's definitely a RFA...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article. ... 65550_5660

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:05 am

If he's a RFA then I think it's a terrible deal...

And while I really don't expect much else than some rent-a-player deals going down I'll make this the Official™ NHL Transactions Thread anyhow.

Speaking of rent-a-players it's obviously Forsberg leading the parade (until he turns his ankle at least

) I think it will be interesting to see what St. Louis does with Weight/Thaktchuk and even Guerin.

Phoenix is still rumored to be possibly moving Doan and even Jovo has been in rumor talk too.

Post by **E5150_ca** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:33 am

If Leafs win a good number of games over the next 2 weeks, expect them to bring in a good winger to play with Sundin. (Nagy would be a good choice)

If they lose those games, expect Tucker to head out west (Edmonton or Calgary is a sure bet if hes going anywhere), and Sundin to head to either the pacific or south-west (Nashville?).

Krieger99 · Post by **Krieger99** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:02 am

E5150_ca wrote:If Leafs win a good number of games over the next 2 weeks, expect them to bring in a good winger to play with Sundin. (Nagy would be a good choice)

If they lose those games, expect Tucker to head out west (Edmonton or Calgary is a sure bet if hes going anywhere), and Sundin to head to either the pacific or south-west (Nashville?).

If Tucker was traded to Calgary, they'd be quite loaded up front. Iginla, Langkow, Tanguay, Huselius, Conroy, Lombardi, Tucker... Although I don't think Tucker will be traded to the Flames.

Post by **joehelmer** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:44 am

Thachuk is also rumored being transfered to NYR. Systemfel told me this on another forum.

Systemfel · Post by **Systemfel** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:48 am

joehelmer wrote:Thachuk is also rumored being transfered to NYR. Systemfel told me this on another forum.

No, that wasn't me. Have another look.

I don't think Calgary has what it takes to get Tucker. Sutter already has given up two 2nd round picks this season (one at the draft for Tanguay and one for Conroy), I doubt he'll be trading his 1st rounder as well.

flea · Post by **flea** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:41 am

bruins72 wrote:
flea wrote:Well, this is not a rumour, as the trade alreay happend....but if u guys are ok with it we could use this thread commenting trades and rumours.

The Bruins obtained a fourth round draft pick in 2008 from Washington in exchange for D Milan Jurcina.

Firstly I wasnt happy with this trade, as I like Jurcina and Brad Stuart is a UFA in june, but then, informing me a bit better, I realized that Milan was also a UFA at the end of the season I would probably leave anyway, so not bad Chia!!
He's definitely a RFA...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article. ... 65550_5660

Yeps, I got it wrong there....thats why I was thinking that he would be too young to be UFA...

....then I go back to my initial thought: terrible trade for the B's!!!

I hope that they can resign Brad Stuart, but as far as I read around there its pretty impossible and it seems that Brad wants to go back to California...

I think Sturm and Primeau are UFA's too.....so there goes the Thornton-trade

Post by **joehelmer** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:52 am

Systemfel wrote:
joehelmer wrote:Thachuk is also rumored being transfered to NYR. Systemfel told me this on another forum.
No, that wasn't me. Have another look.

Okay, I was wrong.

Post by **CatchUp** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:08 am

Here's 2 I found today:

Zherdeve to MTL
and Samsonov to CHI-town.

How bout it Minty? Do you want Sammy?

cheers

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:27 am

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:33 am

Samsanov...hmmm If i was a GM I personally wouldn't be interested, but you never know, strange deals can happen.....Thornton for Stuart,Sturm,Primeau....man I still can't get over that. I don't think the Sharks will do much at the deadline, we don't have too much room in the cap, *prays we trade nabby*
Also the Flyers would be silly to trade Pitkanen. Young, full of talent.

Post by **CatchUp** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:06 pm

Minstrel wrote:No

But isn't he exactly what Chicago needs? Another fragile forward who's supposed to score a ton, but doesn't.

Gainey is one of the best GM's in the league, but 3.5/yr for Samsonov is looking like a shoddy deal.

cheers.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:44 pm

flea wrote:
bruins72 wrote:
flea wrote:Well, this is not a rumour, as the trade alreay happend....but if u guys are ok with it we could use this thread commenting trades and rumours.

The Bruins obtained a fourth round draft pick in 2008 from Washington in exchange for D Milan Jurcina.

Firstly I wasnt happy with this trade, as I like Jurcina and Brad Stuart is a UFA in june, but then, informing me a bit better, I realized that Milan was also a UFA at the end of the season I would probably leave anyway, so not bad Chia!!
He's definitely a RFA...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article. ... 65550_5660
Yeps, I got it wrong there....thats why I was thinking that he would be too young to be UFA...

....then I go back to my initial thought: terrible trade for the B's!!!

I hope that they can resign Brad Stuart, but as far as I read around there its pretty impossible and it seems that Brad wants to go back to California...

I think Sturm and Primeau are UFA's too.....so there goes the Thornton-trade

Well... I think we all knew we were getting screwed on the Thornton deal. It doesn't surprise me in the least that we're not going to keep these guys we got for him. Personally, I'd love to see them re-sign Stuart but if they don't I want to see them bring in a young but experienced player to replace him, somebody who is going to get better too. Maybe a draft pick to boot. As for Sturm and Primeau... don't let the door hit you on the way out. Sturm has disappeared this year. He's been useless. I'd like to see him traded before the deadline, maybe a prospect or pick in return. Primeau is pretty good sometimes but then other times he's just terrible. He can make some really stupid mistakes. He's not bad in a 4th line role but he's making around $1M per season. You need to be better than that for that kind of money.

I don't know if the Jurcina deal is that bad. He may turn out okay a few years down the line but it was obvious he wasn't going to get a chance this year. Dave Lewis doesn't like young guys. He likes to play older veteran... even if they stink. Look at all the icetime that York, Primeau, Mowers, and Hoggan have gotten. Throw Donovan into that group too because he's been terrible since they've signed him. Somehow, these guys seem to get more icetime than some of our younger guys. These younger guys will make mistakes but not many more than these veterans. And the young guys will get better with more playing time. Anyhow... this deal is probably good for Jurcina because at least he'll get to play with the Caps. His development would've been stunted even worse if he stayed in Boston.

Can we trade coaches?

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:47 pm

CatchUp wrote:
Minstrel wrote:No
But isn't he exactly what Chicago needs? Another fragile forward who's supposed to score a ton, but doesn't.

Gainey is one of the best GM's in the league, but 3.5/yr for Samsonov is looking like a shoddy deal.

cheers.

That's an understatement! When Samsonov was in Boston he'd thrill you once in a while but he'd usually just frustrate you to no end. He plays with the puck too darn much. He fakes himself out half the time. Either that or he plays with the puck so much that by the time he's ready to shoot or pass, he's out of position.

As for Zherdev... I'd love to see the Bruins trade Boyes for him. We've got too many centers and could use a scoring winger.

Post by **batdad** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:33 pm

Hey look! I found the Bruins fans! Heh, sorry guys.
Zherdev is a personality unique to himself. I would not trade for him in real life at all. He just won the Rocket Richard Trophy in EHM in 2008-09 for me, but in real life he will never win anything. Attitude problem. Boyes is a much better keep. EVen if the B's have to teach him to play wing.

AS usual Canada > Russia.

(Apologies to kidhander wherever he is)

Post by **Minstrel** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:23 pm

bruins72 wrote:Dave Lewis doesn't like young guys. He likes to play older veteran... even if they stink.

Can we trade coaches?

The parallels between the B's and Hawks are just scary... this is exactly what it was like living in the darkness of the Brian Sutter era here.

He'd refuse to play the then 19yo McCarthy assigning hm mainly to pressbox duty even though he'd Captained the Canadian Jr Team while he'd give Alex 'The Walking Wound' Karpovtsev 29 minutes a game even when he quite literally added to his - rating by putting a puck past his own goalie. He also brought in Gary Valk and Mike Eastwood while he continued to play Igor freaking Korolev at the expense of for example Tuomo Ruutu who got third and fourth line minutes from the moment he landed in Chicago on Sutter's Hawks.

In one of the many games that Daze left with injury it was Korolev that was promoted to first line for two periods with Zhamnov and Calder, not Ruutu (who at the time was perfectly healthy but getting like 8-10 minutes a game because of how clogged with useless vets the lineup was). There's one of those "moments that will live on in hockey infamy" things I'll never forget.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:22 pm

I think the Bruins had Brian Sutter as a coach for a bit too. Or was it one of the other Sutter brothers? I have a hard time keeping track of all of them. Fortunately, I don't think we had a situation like that to worry about. We were already a mostly veteran team and our young guys were down on the farm. What I remember Sutter doing was taking a team that probably wasn't the best and making them President Trophy winners. Unfortunately, he got them to overachieve so much that by the time the playoffs came they fell apart. They just didn't have anything left to give. Sutter got the boot after that.

Back on topic...

It looks like the Bruins are going to wait until very close to the deadline to make a move. At least that's what I've been reading from various sources. I'm also hearing that they may be asking too much for Stuart. I was hoping to see the price driven up because so many teams wanted him. It looks like teams might be playing it smart and not giving up too much for a rental in the new NHL. Oh well!

I was checking out Spector's page today and he had quotes from Columbus management saying that they were looking to deal Zherdev and he hadn't gotten any calls about him. I guess that one was purely rumor... if he was telling the truth.

There was also some reports/speculation about the Florida Panthers possibly pulling off another blockbuster deal but it sounds like mostly just fan speculation.

If you're like me and love trade rumors, check out http://www.spectorshockey.net/ for trade rumor news. He doesn't really come up with the stories himself. He actually gathers rumors from news sources all over (with the help of readers) and gives his spin on things. It's a great site. I've been visiting it for a long time now.

Post by **batdad** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:52 pm

NOooooooooo. Not Spector! Next we will hear about how great Eklund's rumors are. NOOOOOOOOOOO. And in Eklund today, "Forsberg, Pitkannen and Carter are all Plus 85 to go somewhere in the NHL. There are 29 teams interested and willing to part with 1st round picks and a first line player." Thanks EKKIE!!!!

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:25 pm

Spector is good. He shoots down all the stupid rumors. He's at least logical about things. He's been shooting down rumors of Pitkanen getting traded for a while now.

Post by **batdad** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:58 pm

I was just kidding around. All those guys make me nutso! Just cause they all,and I mean all make stuff up off the cuff sometimes.

Systemfel · Post by **Systemfel** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:35 pm

Spector usually has a source, like a newspaper, along with the rumor itself.
He doesn't make stuff up like Eklund.

Post by **batdad** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:32 pm

Yeah, I know Spector has a source and a rumour for stuff. However, some of his Vancouver sources have proven over time to be people who make stuff up for places like Canucks.com...and then some lovely writer or talk show host makes something up more. And this is not to say that these guys are never right. You put enough wet boxes in a fire and eventually you get a fire. I do sometimes check them out but more for humor sake than anything.