British Hockey Chat Thread (EIHL & EPL)

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:09 pm

I'm a bit bored with my current games. Can anybody give me a decent suggestion?

No NHLers please

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:18 am

How about the Sheffield Steelers in the Elite league in the UK, my hometeam? Quite fun to control them, and I suppose it would be a good challenge if you don't know about British hockey.

jackknife77 · Post by **jackknife77** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:12 pm

Yeah, goalies have a cup of tea instead of gatorade on the top of their net

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:25 pm

laskey 16 wrote:How about the Sheffield Steelers in the Elite league in the UK, my hometeam? Quite fun to control them, and I suppose it would be a good challenge if you don't know about British hockey.

Never tried British league, in a few days I'll give an update

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:34 pm

Whoaa!! Garth Murray salary is worthing more than all Sheffield payload!! ^^

Luckily I got a super swede headcoach and I'm doing... fine.. for now. It's the first time I must use Overload all the time to win

It's a nice experience, thanks dude

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:45 pm

No problem, holydogg, I thought you'd enjoy the challenge. UK teams do indeed have low salary budgets. What's your roster so far for the Steelers and who are your coaches? If you get lucky and some 'good' players get released by the NA leagues then you can walk the EIHL. Hope you enjoy your fictional spell in the UK!

P.S. - I'm a part time Hamilton Bulldog myself, having seen some matches at the Copps Coliseum during my holiday to Toronto.

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:55 pm

laskey 16 wrote:No problem, holydogg, I thought you'd enjoy the challenge. UK teams do indeed have low salary budgets. What's your roster so far for the Steelers and who are your coaches? If you get lucky and some 'good' players get released by the NA leagues then you can walk the EIHL. Hope you enjoy your fictional spell in the UK!

P.S. - I'm a part time Hamilton Bulldog myself, having seen some matches at the Copps Coliseum during my holiday to Toronto.

My roaster is mainly the starting one, and I've signed, mostly blindly, some Brits to fill the line-up:

Goalies: Lehman - Lawrence

Clouthier-Tessier-Sutter
Hill-Maltby-Nevell
Gustavsson-Greg-Philips
Owen-Tait-Oliver

also Jason Hewitt and Michel Savaria

Sarich-Ricci
Mazano-Thomas
Bell-Darby

Also Ian Defty and oldie Derek King (player-coach

)

I'm still experiencing lines and since many of them are rubbish endurance or talent, they go up n down on the healthy scratch

This first year is mainly to "learn how to skate" in the UK, I'm already scouting some nice promising Canadian and American prospect for next year

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:03 pm

Yeah, just wait till the UFAs roll out in the offseason! If I were to compare your team with what it would be like in real life then it's a mixed bag. Tessier is arguably the best player in the league, having scored 100 points for the Steelers. Clouthier left midway through the season for Manchester, he is an enforcer and one of the best fighters we've had over here - he was released by Sheffield because his opponents refused to fight him because he was so tough, making his role of protecting Tessier almost impossible. Gustavson was released, he was useless. Sutter isn't special but seems to score a lot. Michel Savaria is terrible, and plays in the English National League (amateur) as far as I know. King is ancient and plays in Fife (Scotland) in an amateur league there. If you are interested the Elite League website is www.eliteleague.co.uk and has the stats for this year. If you want me to tell you of my exoeriences on the game with any players you are looking at just let me now. Good luck!

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:30 pm

laskey 16 wrote:Yeah, just wait till the UFAs roll out in the offseason! If I were to compare your team with what it would be like in real life then it's a mixed bag. [...] If you want me to tell you of my exoeriences on the game with any players you are looking at just let me now. Good luck!

Yup, I need a decent left winger and I get a nice first line. Tessier is my man and I'll try to keep him for sure.

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:40 pm

Yeah, I'd try to keep Tessier. As for left wingers, I don't know whose available in your game and how much money you can afford to spend (although if you finish high in the league the Steelers board seem to forget if you've broken the wage budget!). Off the top of my head I can't remember many who played well for me in EHM, but I could list some players who are good/would be good for the EIHL IRL:

David Clarke (British, at Nottingham Panthers - I think he's a LW)
David Longstaff (British, at Newcastle. Capable of playing in top 2 lines)
P.C. Drouin (may be called Pierre-Claude Drouin. May be hard to sign, former Panther)
Sean Collins, Brendon Hodge, Luke Curtin (ECHL).
Colin Pepperall
Matt Myers (British, centreman at Nottingham. Not a bad player IRL, but is very overrated in EHM from what I've heard. Should be a good signing)
Tony Hand (Best British player ever)
Colin Shields (British RW)
Danny Meyers, Leigh Jamieson (British D men)

I have done some extensive editing to my DB, and I'm guessing you'll be with unfaking DB, so I cannot remember all the players who are good in EHM - I have decreased the attributes of most of the really overrated players.
Basically, anone who averages around a point per game in the ECHL, Central Hockey League or UHL will be good for EIHL. Anyone with about 0.5 Points per game in the European leagues or AHL would also be good. If you want to list me some of the LWs who you could sign then I'll probably be able to tell you what they're like. If at all possible, try to sign Stevie Lyle as our goalie (think he starts game in Italy, I've since updated my rosters). He's a Brit, so frees up an import spot and lets you sign 10 foreign outskaters. Also, the EIHL and the English Premier League (2nd tier in UK) have an agreement for British players to sign 2 way contracts. Basically, you can share the player and he will sometimes be availabe for you and sometimes the other team. Try to sign guys like Ben Morgan, Matt Towe, Robert Dowd etc from Sheffield Scimitars, as they should develop well. Danny Wood is by far the best prospect the UK has produced since Tony Hand in real life in my opinion, he's from Sheffield and will get good in the future. Try to fill out your team with 20 guys - some teams in EIHL only use 16/18 players, meaning they tire. Always get the best Brits available, they may not be as good as players like Tessier, but they can be the difference.

Post by **Calv** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:50 pm

Andrew Hemmings did a job for my Manchester team, seems to be OK in most games and is English, you'll probably have to pay at least £25k for him though from Guildford.

I managed to get Mike Brodeur on one game in net, and I've currently got Marc Magliarditi(sic?) who is just awesome in the EIHL, £25k a week though.

Annoyingly with Manchester they haven't done their homework particularly well, Campbell(who is a poor enforcer in the game) was 7th highest points scorer in the league, and Molin who is OK on the game was 5th highest. Hand is pretty good though, but they overrate Hecl loads, just because he played 14 times for the Sabres

Post by **Calv** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:53 pm

hmm will have to check out Danny Wood, not heard of him. Adam Walker is a good prospect in real life, but I've never played in the EIHL long enough to see what he turns out like

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:58 pm

IRL Danny Wood is over at Shattuck St. Mary's in America, where Sidney Crosby played for a while. He's an awesome player, he played in the ENL for the Sheffield Scimitars at 16 and got over a point per game and owned the junior leagues. There is talk of him popping up in the late rounds of the NHL draft, but I couldn't tell you if that's going to happen or not. Are you currently in a game with Manchester, Calv, and if so would you mind sharing with us your rosters (for Holydogg's benefit)? Ive moved on to the NHL recently.

Post by **Calv** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:18 pm

Basically I try to mirror the real life Phoenix lines as much as possible, I've updated the Phoenix db as well so it has all of the correct players.
GK: Magliarditi(just awesome as I said)
GK: Compton

Basiuk - Mangos
Vychodil - Hecl
Radmall - Hendry

Battaglia - Hand - Molin
Campbell - Walker - Clouthier
Miller - Timmons - Rich
Hemmings - Williams - (empty)

Signings in:
Paul Hendry - RD - pretty solid and starts out as a UFA has a good slapshot on mine and an avg ratings of 7.09 - pretty solid for my 3rd line d-man

Marc Magliarditi - GK - won 11 of 18, GAA 1.65, SV% 0.944, avg rating of 9.06

Andrew Hemmings - LW - not done it for me this season 0 points and avg ratings of 5.88, but his attributes are very good for a British 18yr old, when comparing him to Battaglia(1st line LW) he has 15 attributes better than Tags, with only 9 less - may move him up to 1st line see what he can do

Steve Lee - RD - 16yr old I saw potential in and I've stuck in my jr's will see what he does

Nathaneal Williams - C - 19yr old British centre, had a couple of EIHL teams sniffing around him and my scout(16 for potential) said he would be good so I snapped him up to fill out my roster a bit, not done much for me.

Players I would suggest:
Hemmings seems to have the attributes but isn't performing to what I know he can, in one game he went on a 15 game streak of scoring points.
Simon Mangos and Radoslav Hecl in defence, although Rado's getting on a bit now.
Maybe David Vychodil, he's pretty dependable in defence.
Maybe Adam Walker - good prospect IRL but not sure how he turns out in the game.
Keep hold of Tessier,until he gets too old, he's pretty awesome.
Longstaff was good for me when I signed him, Jonathan Weaver is a good D-man as well(GB Captain IRL)

Post by **Calv** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:35 pm

Couple of others:
Gary Wishart - Can play either RD, centre or RW. Nice backup player who can fill in anywhere and usually has some nice stats, get him from Slough Jets

Daniel Scott(LD) - Usually a starred player in the GB U-20's and is always recommended to me by my scouts as a good prospect, you'll probably have to pay a fair bit of money for him if you want to by him though, about £50k! Maybe best to wait until the end of the season

A couple of brits who play in North America:
Tom Duggan - C/LW - Plays for Shattuck-St.Mary's 16 on mine physical stats are alright, technical aren't so great
Ben Connor - LD - Plays for Windsor Spitfires, 18 with good physical stats(2 17's, 10,13,15,12 ) and mental stats, technical not so good but with 11 passing.

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:44 pm

Thanks for the hints

I know nobody in this league (the only Brit in known was Steve Thomas and that Theo Fleury played in Belfast).

Now I need to adapt to the transfert system (something that North-Americaners and/or Non-Soccer fans don't really understand

)

Post by **Calv** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:51 pm

I've split this off into it's own topic so we don't take over the other one!

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:36 pm

Good idea Calv. Thought of some more EIHL players who I and other people have had success with or could be good signings:

Lee Jinman (Fast skating C)
Andrew Howarth (Overrated Brit)
Fredrik Jonsson (Swedish forward)
Jeff Burgoyne (D)
Rob Donovan ('British' D man. Retired IRL)
Steve Thornton (WInger)
Daryl Andrews (D)
Kevin Bolibruck (D)
Inge Stokvik (Norwegian LW)
Erik Rowe (LW)
Vince Thiessen

How are you doing, Holydogg?

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:17 pm

I'm about more 20 games done now. I'm going up n down 3-4th place. I can slug anybody expect Vipers and Giants mostly.
I've resigned Tessier, Maltby and Manzano so far (one year + team option)
Bell and Newell are playing for UK jr, shame on them, they get smashed by France 5-1!!

I've a shared contract with Wishart, as a temporary issue before hiring him permanently.

I had spotted a nice propect playing US College, his name is O'something, I kill to get him be a Steelers next year

I'm wondering if I keep Lehman or not.. he's not quite consitent.

Gustavsson was fired by the way. 20K contract for this useless? I got Savaria doing the same job for 4K!!

As I see, It's a bit like Canadian Football League, to succeed, we need to get the best local talent available, as there is plentiful decent foreign talent.

Post by **Calv** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:23 pm

Kyle Horne of Slough looks alright on mine in LD

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:25 pm

3rd to 4th ain't too shabby, especially for an EIHL rookie like yourself....similar to this season's real Steelers performances! Can Lehman. He's not the best NM available and you're right, he is inconsistent. Get rid and get someone else, perhaps Magliarditi as suggested by Calv? IRL Lehman is in my opinion the worst goalie I've ever seen at Steelers - he seems to lack common sense in some situations - but a lot of Steelers fans seem to rate him! Good move releasing Gustavson. Just out of curiosity, who's leading scoring in the league?

Post by **Calv** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:31 pm

Just finished he regular season in 4th on mine, Tessier lead the scoring with 87 points then Dutiaume on 80 and Awada on 73

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:34 pm

I might reinstall the Unfaking database and do a quick season, just to see how I can do. I've not played a game yet on the unfaking db, I loaded up the game and then edited some of the things that I didn't like (such as Romford's short name being different to other EPL teams.) If i do, I'll post how I perform.

Post by **Calv** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:43 pm

Won the Playoffs

3-1 in the final against the steelers, Hand getting the first star in the match as well! He usually retires after the first season though

holydogg · Post by **holydogg** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:46 pm

Mark Dutiaume is leading scorer. Tessier is second, 5 pts behind him
Simon Mangos is best scoring D-man

Liam Greig is second scorer for rookie (Gregor Slak is first and going stellar)