TBL NHL Roster Update Data Issues (i.e. mistakes/omissions)

[batdad]

Okay...more Canucks

Canucks sign Brad Moran, Greg Classen and Jason Jaffray

No $ mentioned for these. All are 2 way contracts, NHL minimum $457K I believe, for 1 year. From the radio when I heard the announcements, so there ya go. None of them are eligible for waivers.

They also have Patrick Coulombe on the same kind of contract for one more season...2007-08 real life, 2006-07 in EHM.

Jaffray and Coulombe are with the Moose. Classen is listed with the Hamburg Freezers, and Moran is listed as an RFA for Vancouver...he is not really a prospect.


OK forget about Moran...he is an unsigned prospect in the Orignal DBase from SI. Oops. A 27 year old...ugh. So leave him there


DONE Moran & Classen. Moran is 27 so bringing him into the NHL in 2006 won't really harm any development.

Haven't done Jaffray and Coulombe. Not sure what to do about them. I'd put them in the same boat as prospects in that they're still young and arguably need that extra year in the juniors to properly develop. What do you think?



With Jaffray and Coulombe both have played 2 years in the minors in real life, so I don't see what the harm would be. Plus honestly, neither of them is really going to develop that much.

[batdad]

Colorado Avalanche

NHLScap for the Avalanche. Seems very reliable as terms reported in all other places match this site well.


Add:

1. Jaroslav Hlinka. He Hhs a $600K 1 year, two way deal. Was with Sparta Praha...now Colorado signed as UFA June 1.

2. Jeff Jillson 1 year $500K, 2 way...as per site above in Hlinka notes.

3. Dale Purinton 1 year, 2 way $475K according to site above avalanchedb.com



DELETE (from Av's roster only...not sure if UFA/RFA so may be best to leave as is unless can find more info):


There are several guys who had contracts last year in Colorado, who had them expire. Not sure where they are now. Can't seem to find info on them...they are all minor leaguers. I have checked several sites. Maybe others can find more.

Joe Scott
Frantisek Skladany
Ryan Steeves
Tomas Slovak
Tom Lawson

DONE

With regards to the five free agents, I've set them all to UFAs. They're not on the NHL list so I'll assume they're UFAs (unless anyone can show otherwise) because they're no longer on the Avs' roster. Maybe they'll be picked up by one of our other researchers in another league.

[batdad]

Calgary Flames

Add

1. David Van der Gulik . 1 year remaining on entry level deal. He is at $560 K for the season, but the average of the deal was $547,500 so with only the one year left..this is what his contract should be enteres as.

2. Brad Cole--Undrafted, signed as free agent. 3 year entry level deal.Cole signing

From NHLscap...it is $543,333 each year for the terms of the deal do to the bonus structure. So just enter it this way, since noone knows the bonus breakdown.


That is all. Calgary was easy!

I haven't done either of these. I need your opinion as whether to add these two. It's the same issue as before - are they too young to move to the NHL? Is that extra year in the juniors going to help them realise their potential and more accurately simulate real-life?

With regards to Van der Gulik, CGY already have the rights to him in EHM so the GM can decide when/whether to sign him at any point. So that's no problem really. It's just Cole that I'm concerned about.

Hmm...Van Der Gulik in my game had no rights...weird. I will check him again. Assign Cole though I think just so that he gets his rights to the correct team. If he is young enough, can send him back, since I believe he still has junior rights.

[Forsberg]

Colorado/Clark extension.

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_6732970 Already been done.


PS.Halak is unsigned at the start of the game for montreal, he played ahl/nhl last season for them. DONE

[batdad]

Edmonton Oilers

Salaries and cap hit from nhlscap.com

ADD:

1. Sebastien Bisaillon Undrafted player, no rights for anyone in EHM and no team. Oilers have him under entry level deal $500,000. Will be RFA after first EHM season. Not done - same reasons regarding youth and currently in juniors.

2. Tom Gilbert

Has 1 year left on contract with Oilers..$835 plus cap hit of $907,500 k re bonuses achieved in 2006-07. Just set his 1 year salary as $907,500 straight. Again numbers from site above.

In EHM right now, Gilbert has no team and no rights assigned. He was part of the Tommy Salo deal, and played a few games for the Oil last year IRL. DONE

3.TJ Kemp

Signed 1 year, 2 way $475,000 deal Jul 2007, as per site above. In EHM he is listed as being with Reading Royals of the ECHL, no NHL rights attached. DONE

[batdad]

Forsberg:


#1...The Clark extension will be got to. It is after the date this is up to date to so far. Do not worry

#2...Halak is a prospect unsigned in EHM from original DB, and will remain that way most likely. We have said that 10 times. Unsigned prospects will remain unsigned for reasons archi has explained above, and in other threads.

Note from Archi: Halak has actually played for Hamilton since the 05-06 season. He played 16 games for Montreal last season so I think he ought to be in the roster despite being an unsigned prospect in the original SI DB. It seems like SI may have missed him. I've signed him for Montreal and moved him down to the Hamilton affiliate

[batdad]

Minnesota Wild


NHLScap for Minny


1. Steve Kelly. 1 year $500K. 2 way. As per NHLScap above. Signed as UFA who in EHM is listed playing for Frankfurt Lions.

2. Andre Lakos

Signed as UFa from Salzburg in Austrian League in EHM. NHLScap has 1 year $625 2 way.

3. John Scott

Signed a 2 year $475K two year deal Dec 06. (NHLScap) Now in 2nd year of this deal. IN EHM he is with no team. Signed from UFA.

4. Joel Ward

2 year $495K 2 way signed Sep 2006. In EHM he is playing at UPEI (University of Prince Edward Island. Undrafted/UFA signing.

Not with Minny right now

1.Mark Rooneem Unsigned...UFA Status
2. AJ Thelan...unsigned draft pick...he is now a UFA.
3. Ryan Stokes...not resigned for new season. He is now UFA.

DONE

[batdad]

Chicago Blackhawks

NHSLSCap

Add

1. Jordan Hendry (actually in the game as a fake...Michael Bell...see below.) If leaving fake player...just make sure has the contract below.

Interesting, he is not even in EHM that I can see. Played at Univ Alaska Fairbanks...and last 2 years in Norfolk in real life. He has a 1 year deal (at least left on a deal) $475K/2 way and will be RFA at end of season. DONE and renamed

2. Prestin Ryan

Signed as UFA...1 year deal $525,000 2 way. He is RFA in the game with rights assigned to Vancouver. This is incorrect. he was UFA, and signed by Chicago. DONE

3. Jean-Claude Sawyer

Signed as UFA...3 year deal $500, $500, $525...cap hit is $508,333. 2 way contract. In EHM he is UFA, not with any team. Not done - same reason as always! He's in the juniors with Cape Breton.


Not with Hawks

1. Michael Bell...not given qualifying offer after 06-07 season. released to Free Agency. No word on where he is now. Hmm...after looking at this...I am wondering if Michael Bell is a "faked" version of Jordan Hendry for some reason. Same birthyear, same position, neither ever drafted. Both under contract..but no mention of Bell in hockeydb.com or eurohockey.net (He is Canadian apparently, as is Hendry...leaving note for D88 on this one. I have CONCLUSIVE PROOF> I AM RIGHT> MICHAEL BELL IS JORDAN HENDRY!! WAHOO>>> Proof to the thread for D88 to see.

2. Chris Durno--UFA not resigned. Not sure where he has gone now. DONE

[batdad]

Columbus Blue Jackets

NHL SCAP CBJ


Add

1. Darcy Campbell Not done - currently with Alaska Fairbanks

Signed as UFA undrafted. $635,000 salary 1 year deal, with bonuses to make cap hit $850,000. See NHLSCAP above. Will be RFA after expires. In game is with Univ Alaska-Fairbanks. Noone has rights, undrafted.

2. Dan Lacosta Not done - CLB own his rights anyway - so the GM can choose if/when to sign him in EHM.

Dan was 3rd rounder 2004. He did not have rights let go, and was signed. $525 for two years left on his entry level deal. Two way contract. NHLScap above for salary confirm

3. Jon Landry--Cannot find in game at all. Not sure what is happening. Possibly not in game...faked? Landry is real name. hockeydb profile says played at Holy Cross U.

4.Mikko Maenpaa DONE

Signed June 1, as UFA from HPK in Finland. $505,000 1 year, 2 way deal as per NHLSCAP.

5. Kyle Wharton DONE

He was signed. Game says CBJ lost his rights...and is UFA...not true. 2 years on entry level left

Year 1: $525,000 Year 2: $600,000. 2 way both years. Cap hit listed as $608,333 if makes all bonuses.

Not with Jackets, unknown where they are

1. Tim Konsorada (UFA) DONE
2. Tomas Kloucek (UFA) DONE
3. jamie Pushor (UFA) DONE
4. Filip Novak (UFA) DONE
5. Brandon Sugden (UFA) DONE

[batdad]

Nashville Predators

NHLSCAP

Add

1. Dov Grumet-Morris

Signed as UFA out of college. Philly lost rights. $475 K 2 way ($60K in minors) as per the article noted above.

2.Josh Langfeld

Josh signed Sep 4..so when update will catch this one. 1 year $500K two way ($100K in minors)

3. Rich Peverley

Rich signed 2 year deal. 2nd year is now. $460/season 2 way deal..75K at minor level. In EHM game he is not affiliated with any NHL team. Playing for Milwaukee Admirals. Preds signed him Jan 07. Will be RFA after season. NHL.com has this guy listed as John Peverley. Really is Rich Peverley. Game is correct.

4. Antti Pihlstrom

Signed as UFA undrafted. $2 year deal $505,000 year 1, $530,000 year 2. 2 way deal. Has $100K performance bonus potential in year 1. In EHM he is NHL UFA playing with HPK.

5. John Vigilante

Signed as undrafted UFA, Dec 2006. 1 year left on deal $475,000 2 way clause. As per NHLSCAP after which he will be RFA.

Not with Preds

1. Rick Berry

He is UFA...look at the NHL page..he was signed before last season by NYI in real life, to a 1 year deal. He is now not signed anywhere, and is UFA.

2. jeremy Yablonski

UFA as per NHL.com history. He had his contract expire after 06-07. Nashville has not qualified, not resigned. He is UFA. Not known if signed anywhere at all.

DONE

[batdad]

Detroit Red Wings

NHLSCAP

add

1. Brett Engelhardt

Brett signed as UFA with Detroit. 1 year $500K as per NHL SCAP. 2 way deal. He is UFA after deal expires. IN EHM he is with Toronto Marlies. No NHL rights assigned.

Drop

1. Josh Langfeld--Moved to Nash as UFA...info in Nashville section.

2. Brad Bonello

Contract expired in real life end of 2007. Detroit did not retain rights, services or anything. He is now a UFA. No clue where he is playing.


3. The 32 year old Chris Chelios in the game. Not a Wing. RETIRE.

DONE

[batdad]

St Louis Blues

NHLSCAP BLUES


Add

1. Martin Kariya

Martin signed 1 year $737,500 2 way deal as per NHLSCAP. UFA after expiration.

2. Charles Linglet

Signed as UFA. Played with Peoria in game. 2 years $480K, 2 way deal. UFA after expires.

3. Juuso Riksman

Riksman signed as UFA from Jokerit in EHM. 1 year $700K. 2 way.

4. Timofei Shishkanov

Shishkanov rights acquired from Nashville in trade noted in wiki article above. Blues have not yet resigned him. His old Nashville contract expired at the end of 2006-07 season IRL. So just move him to St Louis unsigned prospects from Nashville for now.

5. Jean-Guy Trudel

1 year $575K 2 way deal. UFA After expires. In EHM is with HC Ambri-Piotta Swiss league.

6. Steve Wagner

Signed 2 year deal. Year 1 is $585K, year 2 $635K...2 way. Cap hit is average of the two numbers $610K.

Drop

1. Chris Beckford-Tseu UFa no team
2. Doug Lynch-UFA no team
3.Konstantin Zakharov-UFA, no qual offer issued.
4. Mike Stuart--UFA no team.
5. Tomas Mojzis-UFA, unsigned prospect--now just a UFA in NHL, not with Blues anymore
6. Peter Sejna--Now UFA, unsigned prospect,,,not attached to Blues with rights anymore. NHL UFA
7. Aaron Mackenzie--UFA, no team.

DONE

[archibalduk]

Batdad - I think you should be able to use the list below to identify who are/were RFAs. It's from this page on NHL.com:


ANAHEIM

Bjorn Melin

ATLANTA

Colin Stuart, Chris Thorburn.

BUFFALO

Daniel Paille.

CALGARY

Mark Giordano, Eric Godard, Tomi Maki, Curtis McElhinney, Eric Nystrom.

CAROLINA

Anton Babchuk, Ryan Bayda, Tim Conboy.

CHICAGO

Jonas Nordqvist, Pierre Parenteau, Bruno St. Jacques, Martin St. Pierre.

COLUMBUS

Raffaele Sannitz.

DALLAS

Marius Holtet, Junior Lessard.

DETROIT

Eric Himelfarb, Logan Koopmans, Stefan Liv, Derek Meech.

EDMONTON

Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers, Alexei Mikhnov, Brock Radunske.

FLORIDA

Janis Sprukts, Noah Welch.

LOS ANGELES

Petr Kanko, Richard Petiot, Matt Ryan, John Zeiler.

MONTREAL

Andrew Archer, Andre Benoit, Jean-Philippe Cote, Yann Danis, Corey Locke, Duncan Milroy, Alexander Perezhogin, Cory Urquhart.

NASHVILLE

Matt Ellison, Alex Henry, Ville Koistinen.

NEW JERSEY

Frank Doyle, Justin Papineau, Thomas Pihlman, Jason Ryznar.

NEW YORK ISLANDERS

Drew Fata, Steve Regier.

NEW YORK RANGERS

Jarkko Immonen, Bryce Lampman, David Liffiton.

OTTAWA

Michal Barinka, Danny Bois, Oleg Saprykin.

PHILADELPHIA

Scott Munroe, Darren Reid.

PHOENIX

Brendan Bell.

PITTSBURGH

Ryan Lannon.

SAN JOSE

Tomas Plihal, Craig Valette.

TAMPA BAY

Mike Egener, Mitch Fritz, Karl Stewart.

VANCOUVER

Drew MacIntyre

WASHINGTON

Tomas Fleischmann, Jakub Klepis.

[archibalduk]

1. Kevin Bieksa...signed a 3 year extension. TSN

His contract breakdown should be as follows IN EHM

2006-07 Salary: $550,000 CAP HIT $550,000
2007-08 Salary: $4.25 Mill CAP HIT: 3.75 mill
2008-09 Salary: $3.5 mill CAP HIT: 3.75 mill
2009-10 Salary: $3.5 Mill CAP HIT: 3.75 mill


2. The extension contracts should not be averaged for cap hit for the first season. Using the example above (Bieksa):

2006-07 Bieksa cap hit should be .550 from his old contract. Then for 2007-08 in EHM it would move to his new 3.75 mill contract as his cap hit (Average of the 3 year extension)

...

Hope the above makes sense. Now...if it does not let me know. If it is not possible to do this with the editor, also let me know.

We can only set one yearly wage for players using the Editor. We can't set one wage for the first season and then a second wage for subsequent season. So that means we have to enter the average cap hit as a player's wages. In your example above I would set the Bieksa's contract to a four year contract with a wage of $2.95m per year:

0.55 + 3.75 + 3.75 + 3.75 = $11.8m total cap hit
11.8m divided by 4 years = $2.95m average cap hit per year.

That's the best we can do. We can't use the Editor to add contract extensions - we just have to calculate the average cap hit and use that instead.

[Lidas]

Seeing all these posts, I just feel that I have to add that Im proud of working with all of you on this update.

Usually, I do all these things by myself. Im a perfectionist, and I dont like downloading updates,
because I believe that they would have more errors than if I would do them myself.

But... here at TBL, Ive found people as dedicated and serious as myself when undertaking a project,
and I can be sure that anything I download from this site is of the highest standard.

Thanks everyone who are helping out creating a better EHM!

[archibalduk]

This project truly has been a community effort. It's great fun to be working on this together rather than alone. It also makes my job a hell of a lot easier and it'll result in a much more polished final version

Beta version 0.2 is out now (LINK). It incorporates all of the corrections mentioned so far in this thread.

Frustratingly I'm going to lose my internet connection now for a while. I have no idea for how long (it depends on how quickly the company will install it for me). Tasku is very kindly taking over this project during my absence.

Note to Tasku: I've done all corrections above this post. Anything posted below this post will have to be done by you

[batdad]

Arch: I made comments in green in some spots. I agree about the youngsters that have rights attached to NHL teams..just leave them. However, the ones that do not in EHM..should at least have that done for them...so that they are on the correct squads. They can still go to junior, or wherever..but rights should at least go to the teams. The issue is that they for the most part..were undrafted.

As for Van Der Gulik and Lacoste ?? CBJ Goalie...in the game I loaded they had no rights with anyone. So I will double check them

[archibalduk]

Assigning NHL rights to those that currently have no rights sounds like a good idea

I checked whether van der Gulik and Lascoste had rights using the Editor. Maybe the rights need to be redone (i.e. remove their NHL rights in the Editor and then add the rights again) if they're not showing up in EHM.

I've passed the DB over to Tasku earlier today so you'll need to contact him to say which players need NHL rights added.

[archibalduk]

Tasku - these players need to have just NHL rights assigned to them (they can stay at their contracted teams):

Patrick Coulombe - Vancouver
Greg Classen - Vancouver
Brad Cole - Calgary
Jean-Claude Sawyer - Chicago
Darcy Campbell - Columbus

This list was compiled from Batdad's earlier posts in this thread.

DONE

[Tasku]

Yes, I'm here... What? Who goes where?

I'm still trying to get my bearings on this NHL updating deal, so give it to me in plain English (or Finnish, if you like) and I'll get on it.

Edit: Heh, okay, there's the list, it wasn't there, when I clicked "send"...

[Tasku]

Tasku - these players need to have just NHL rights assigned to them (they can stay at their contracted teams):

Patrick Coulombe - Vancouver
Greg Classen - Vancouver
Brad Cole - Calgary
Jean-Claude Sawyer - Chicago
Darcy Campbell - Columbus

This list was compiled from Batdad's earlier posts in this thread.

Okay, done... Greg Classen was already property of Vancouver Canucks, others had no NHL rights prior.

[batdad]

THanks Tasku.

Please also do

Sebastien Bisaillon-Edmonton
Jason Jaffray-Vancouver


and please double check that

David Van Der Gulik is with Calgary (rights)

and

Dan Lacosta has rights with Columbus.

If they do not please do that.

Thanks

DONE

[Tasku]

Sebastien Bisaillon-Edmonton
Jason Jaffray-Vancouver

Rights only, or signed to these teams?

[batdad]

Rights only..although Jaffray is old enough to be signed. But just leave it at rights.

Tasku--Also do not forget to update the changelist Archi has set up for 2007-09. That means Sep 2007.


Just so we have everything there, should do the changelist right when you make the changes.

[Tasku]

Ah, yes... will do...

--Done the above list, thanks Batdad