Folks-I hate to say it. But the likelihood of an accurate update on attributes coming from here is slim. We have discussed this before, and I am sure it will be spoken about in the future again.
1. who has seen the Flyers play every game so they can accurately rate guys? Has this same person seen all the Wightlink games so they can rate their players? have they actually watched those players individually play the game? what are the person's credentials?
2. Not even an NHL scout could take on this task. It is way too much. It has been explained before, so I am not going to get into it again.
3. Here is a personal example: Joni Pitkanen. Flyers suck, he had a horrible year. He came in with high expectations. THe game gave him a high potential,and a high rating...Pitkanen becomes an All star.
Now--Pitkannen not playing well in real life. So..a bunch of people say "lower his attributes, he is not that good". So we do, and he becomes a 4th-5th defenseman like he is playing at in RL.
Now...next year, after the move to Edmonton...lets say Joni becomes Bobby Orr in real life...so what happens on this board? What happens then? We get 20 people saying.."Come on Pitkannen is way better than that rating..slapshot to 18 skating to 19...come on" It is a never ending, never possible to be accurate project. So it is not going to happen here.
Especially after we gave Kevin Bieksa a bump to core or key defenseman status with his attributes because he had a great year last year...
Do you see? The point is .. no matter what attribute changes you do...you will still have to re change, add, and redo every 2 seconds for every player.
Why? because noone not even the top scouts really know how someone is going to do!
My advice..if you want attribute changes--do them for your own games personally, keep track of them so you know what you have done, and keep your original database and the TBL database safe and untouched. Cause if you don't..no challenges for you.
I will now lock this topic, so it does not once again become a debate about Si, a discussion about unfaking etc.
I am pretty sure we have all had enough of that.
Ok changed my mind, I will not lock this topic for now.Mature discussion is allowed. However if the mods feel this is becoming
1. A debate between modified database attributes and the original researchers work...
2. An Si bashing forum (for their original research)
3 A discussion that gets personal
We will shut it down.
I agree that there will be a lot of homer fans out there trying to improve their favourite players but surely if we can get a unanimous agreement on certain players we should edit them? For example, I am sure everyone on here agrees that Antero Niitymaki is overrated in the default EHM db. Also, we could edit the db so that Marc Staal, Bobby Ryan et al are harder to trade for. I tend to play in the UK leagues and they are horribly done. I use an edited database myself just for the UK leagues, but it is now unfortunately out of date. For starters the shortnames of the EIHL and EPIHL teams should be their city/town names rather than their nicknames as that is how British fans call their teams, and for seconds Elite League teams sign players who wouldn't make it to the ENL (3rd tier of UK) and some of whom play in real life in recreational leagues! 
Rant over.
obviously wasn't too skillfull but my first hockey game live, was a good experience.
