Officlal TBL 2007-08 TRADE DEADLINE thread

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:42 pm

All deals go here.

Well, it has begun. A few days ago Commodore/Stillman for Eaves/Corvo.

Today:
Modry from LA to Philly for a pick of some kind

If there is a deal big enough to get its own thread, then we will set it up.

For now. This deal is silly. Clearly the Flyers could not get much. Market sucks because everyone save LA and TB is still somewhat in the race. Of course, if the pick is a 5th rounder, good on Philly. Or conditional depending on how far they go. Modry sucks,.

Wow! Apparently (got this from HF boards) it was 3rd? Stinson whatcha think? I think too much. Standard is a 4th for guys like Modry isn't it? Laugh

Post by **Danny** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:05 pm

LA should be giving picks for someone to take Modry.

Post by **B. Stinson** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:10 pm

Stinson whatcha think?

Not much, yet. As a player coming from the west, I haven't heard a single word about Modry all season, nor have I had any real chance to see him play.

Even after reading Homer's opinion, I still don't know what to think. Homer says he's " a steady two-way defenseman that will bring us leadership and experience down the stretch".

That sounds great on the surface, but he's actually said those exact words(the bolded ones) about everyone he's signed since taking over... including Todd Fedoruk.

So, I'm just gonna wait and see for myself.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:24 pm

*cough* Isn't that what Clarke said about Rathje and Hatcher?*Cough*

Anyway, there must be something to Modry as he is Plus 2 on a horrible, horrible hockey team in LA. Not sure what it is, but there must be something.

Coyote of the Sea · Post by **Coyote of the Sea** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:57 pm

BTW just to add ESPN is also reporting it as a third rounder

Post by **B. Stinson** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:53 am

Philadelphia's Jim Vandermeer to Calgary for 2009 3rd round pick.

Post by **batdad** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:08 pm

Vandermeer has never been the same since his injury a couple of years ago. used to be able to fight, now is scared to.

Systemfel · Post by **Systemfel** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:53 am

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=230511&hubName=nhl

Ha! I knew Sundin wasn't going anywhere! Too bad for the Leafs' rebuilding plans, though.

Post by **Shadd666** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:21 am

I respect Mats' decision, but i'm not sure it's the best decision he could have taken for his team...

He should have agreed on being traded to allow his team to start a rebulding plan, and then come back to Toronto in the summer. On the other hand, being in Toronto from 94, he certainly doesn't necessarily want to move

flea · Post by **flea** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:19 pm

Sooooooooooo quiet this trade-deadline....I assume that all trades will be made today or tomorrow...

I still hope we can get Hossa, but only if he comes with a good contract extension under the arm and if we dont have to pay too much for him...

...yeps, Iam dreaming

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:22 pm

Yeah, it's been quiet but I'm sure things will get quite busy on deadline day.

I've been hoping the B's could land Hossa but I think their asking price is just too much. For one thing, I wouldn't give much at all for him unless he came with a contract extension. I wouldn't pay such a steep price for a rental. I keep hearing that they want Kessel, Lashoff, a 1st rounder, and more. That's just too much. As much of a difference maker this guy is, he's not worth trading away the team's future.

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:24 pm

I think there will be one decent size deal. But for the most part it is going to be fairly quiet. Just 3rd liners and mid picks moving. I would be shocked if we saw more than 1 of Hossa, Sundin, Jeff Carter, Oli Jokkinen, Kaberle, McCabe moved.

I will be quite surprised and may stab myself if more than 2 of those listed above move.

flea · Post by **flea** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:26 pm

Yeps, I was hearing that too and its way too much...

Also, it seems that a swap of Kessel for Carter (Philly) was turned down, thank God!!!

I dont wanna see Kessel leave....like him...

What do u guys think is more important for the B's right now?? A good puck-moving Dmen or another wing or forward??

I say that because I was reading a lot that the B's were looking at Liles too...

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:35 pm

I've heard rumors that the B's turned down the Kessel for Carter deal and I've heard others saying Philly turned down the deal. Who knows which is true?

There's always lots of trade rumors dealing with Toronto and Montreal because they're got such a rabid fanbase. At this time of year I ignore most talk involving those teams. I just read that Sundin is NOT going to waive his no-movement clause. I haven't heard anything saying that McCabe or Kaberle had agreed to waive theirs. I'm wondering if we'll see less "no trade" or "no movement" clauses being offered in the future? Anyhow, I've heard Richards (TB) has agreed to waive his for a team that is a serious playoff competitor.

I have heard talk about the B's and Liles but I wonder if that's just fan talk. There was another defenseman like Liles that I've heard mentioned too. I don't know. I'd like to see something like that if the cost isn't too high. As for forwards, I'd love to see them shed Glen Murray's salary. He's played very well since coming back from injury but he hasn't been so hot since Thornton got traded, plus he's getting old and he's been very injury prone over the last couple years. If we could trade him for a younger scorer, I'd be happy.

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:40 pm

No trade/movement are the dumbest thing GMs have ever given out. Absolutely stupid to possibly put your ability to succeed as a GM in the hands of a player who has no interest in playing, helping a team win. Sundin for example. Refuse to move from a non contender to a contender to help them win? Um...sorry but that is a sign of ZERO character. Same for Wade Redden (cept a little less since he is on a contender)

I would not want guys like Sundin on my team. No character. Clearly.

Liles sucks. Incredibly overrated. Glen Murray- is a possible lower level move, but would Boston really move him? If they do, are they giving up the battle for the playoff spot? I dunno.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:40 pm

I don't think moving Murray would hurt the Bruins' playoff run for this year that much. They were doing okay when he was out. I'm thinking that dropping his $4M from the payroll would do even more for them.

Systemfel · Post by **Systemfel** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:42 pm

Wow, Forsberg returning after all. With Colorado.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230555&hubname=nhl

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:08 pm

Heh. Shocking, so shocking.

Post by **Danny** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:11 pm

batdad wrote:No trade/movement are the dumbest thing GMs have ever given out. Absolutely stupid to possibly put your ability to succeed as a GM in the hands of a player who has no interest in playing, helping a team win. Sundin for example. Refuse to move from a non contender to a contender to help them win? Um...sorry but that is a sign of ZERO character. Same for Wade Redden (cept a little less since he is on a contender)

I would not want guys like Sundin on my team. No character. Clearly.

Liles sucks. Incredibly overrated. Glen Murray- is a possible lower level move, but would Boston really move him? If they do, are they giving up the battle for the playoff spot? I dunno.

Agree on the NTC issue, especially giving it to stiffs like Tucker and Kubina. But meh, it's the Leafs. Don't agree on Sundin, I don't like rentals either, the league should forbid teams to re-sign their rented players in the summer. Not Sundin's job to fix management screw ups. The Leafs would trade any top prospect coming back in a Sundin trade for a Raycroft type of player anyway. Thanks for Tuukka btw

Liles overrated ? Depends how people rate him, not really following any Avs discussion boards so don't know. Good offensive insticts, average in his own end, decent #4 Dman IMO. Not sure where he'd fit with the Bruins, similar player to Wideman. But anything that gets Hnidy out of the line up is fine.

Wouldn't mind dumping Muzz, just not for the sake of making a trade. He and Manny are the first ones who should go if salary needs to be dumped to sign a high profile player, Bruins are in need of a top 6 Winger and a top pairing Dman. If there's no chance to get either then there's no point in getting rid of Muzz. 13 goals in his last 25 games, however he's injury prone and for every goal he scores he takes 3 absolutely horrifying needless hooking/holding penalties. The team seemed to do just fine when he was out.
FYI, I'd do a Murray for Liles and a pick trade. I know it won't happen, just saying.

Coyote of the Sea · Post by **Coyote of the Sea** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:22 pm

apparently tonights Campbell's last game as a Sabre

http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/284850.html

Coyote of the Sea · Post by **Coyote of the Sea** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:51 pm

since i can't edit myself sinces it after 15 minutes

Hossa more then likely to be traded (as of the 22nd at least)
http://tsn.ca/nhl/trade_deadline/news_s ... e_deadline

Post by **Shadd666** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:19 pm

bruins72 wrote:Anyhow, I've heard Richards (TB) has agreed to waive his for a team that is a serious playoff competitor.

Interesting... I guess the Flames have a look at him as a plan B to deal Tanguay away if they can't put their hands on Jokinen... With Sundin 'out' of the market, that's still two possible targets for Calgary.

However, i doubt the Flames will be able to bring Jokinen... But with Sutter on the negociation table, you never know...

As for Hossa, any news? The article from TSN is a bit outdated now that Sundin announced he won't waive his NTC...

Oh, and Forsberg back to the Avs? And now Sakic is back from injury... What a battle it is in the NW division!

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:26 pm

Somewhere I heard (cannot recall where) Richards has a health issue that has been kept very quiet this season. Not an injury per se. Did he have mono or something in camp? Cannot recall.

Luongo will get Jokinen (jesus he has as many spellings as Niittymäki.) Yeah right..Canucks won't do anything major. I heard Sanderson and Rucinsky are available though.

As for Campbell, agent speak can't really be trusted. Are you listening agent of Mr Foppa the floppankle?

danny--I get what you are saying about Mats. Talk here is about how he is being loyal to his team, and loves TO and all that. However, I just feel that if you really love your team and want it to succeed you would do whatever was best for the club, including allowing a trade. Yep, the club is dumb to have given him the clause, and it should not be counted on for him to waive it. However, Mats should "man up" and help the Loafs be better. at least give them 3 teams you would allow a deal to and go from there.

Post by **Danny** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:42 pm

batdad wrote:
danny--I get what you are saying about Mats. Talk here is about how he is being loyal to his team, and loves TO and all that. However, I just feel that if you really love your team and want it to succeed you would do whatever was best for the club, including allowing a trade. Yep, the club is dumb to have given him the clause, and it should not be counted on for him to waive it. However, Mats should "man up" and help the Loafs be better. at least give them 3 teams you would allow a deal to and go from there.

Yeah, I would agree with that, if the Bruins were in that situation I'd prefer him to move. But still, IMO a bit harsh to question his character

And as I said before, I doubt the return for Sundin alone would turn the franchise around. IMO they would get much more for Kaberle.

Campbell is asking for 6m+ p/a I've heard. Seriously, that's like...totally LOLROFL.

Hypnotist · Post by **Hypnotist** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:26 am

With all the lifetime contracts being given out, it seems like every pending RFA or UFA under the age of 30 who plays more than 10 minutes a night thinks that he should be given that consideration. Campbell is a very good young player, but I am completely on the side of the Sabres on this one. His agent is telling him he can get a 6-7 year deal at $6 million plus. I sudder to think that there probably is a GM out there who will. But personally, $5.75 mil for 3 years is a generous contract for a player who has yet to prove he is an elite level player year in and year out. IMO there are less than 20 players in the league who actually earn (not just collect) more than $5 million a year.