Goon Team?

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:33 pm

Hey guys, I am currently half way through my first season with the Coyotes.

In my team are:

Belak - 7 Fights
Carcillo - 9 Fights
Dingman - 7 Fights
Bates - 2 Fights
Fedoruk - 8 fights

In my AHL side are:
Parker
Bellamare
Lessard

Anyone else have more fighters in their ranks?

I claimed Parker (the Sherrif!) off waivers and have been menaing to put him on the checking line in place of Fedoruk for months but Fedoruk has played 40-odd games and has a rating of 7.22 and is second on the team in hits (behind Doan).

dave1927p · Post by **dave1927p** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:36 am

im in year 2051 so i won't say their names but i have 6 (4 forwards, 2 defenceman) who all can fight and throw hits but more importantly they all can score too. And i also have 1 goon as a fringe player. I would send him down to the AHL but i don't want to lose him through waivers. I'm in 2nd place after playing 71 games.
Is your team any good? Sound like you too are using the Burke strategie

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:25 am

well im 46; games into the season and from memory have wn sround 22. i am currentlygoing through a rough patch thoughas doan, jokinen and jovo are all out for over a month with injury. ps- who's burke? lol

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:00 am

as i am stuck in a traffic jam.....my team is:

hanzal - jokinen - doan
meuller - reinprecht - lisin
fedoruk - bates - dingman
carcillo - garlock - stewart

jovanovski - morris
malik - mclaren
colaiaveco (sp?) - belak

bryzgalov
telqvist

obviously i need a star player on the left wing in the off seasom. anthony stewart has been a revelation on the 4th line. 20 games amd only 4 points but has only had two 6 ratings! gets mainly 7 without scoring alot of points so he's obviously doing something right. cant remember where i got him from though.

dave1927p · Post by **dave1927p** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:56 am

Leaf GM Brian Burke

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:11 am

Ahh yeah, silly me!

Things have changed for the Goon Team. Tanabe came available and all they wanted in return was rights to a Prospect who I didn't like the look of, so Tababe may have to replace Belak at the 3rd RD spot.

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:31 pm

Well the "goon team" are doing rather well! I JUST scraped into the playoffs where I whitewashed the Detroit Red Wings 4-0, then beat Vancouver 4-2.

I now play the Stars in the Western Conference final. The other game sees the Sabres take on the New York Rangers!

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:10 pm

Have now beat the Stars 4-3........... this team could win the playoffs!! How embarassing! Could this be the worst team to win if they do? lol

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:45 pm

I WON MY FIRST STANLEY CUP!!! AAARRRGHHHH

Beating the New York Rangers 4-2 in the series! haha

The winning team was:

Hanzal - Jokinen - Doan
Hensick - Reinprecht - Lisin
Fedoruk - Bates - Dingman
Murray - Meuller - Stewart

Jovanowski - Morris
Malik - McLaren
Colaiacovo - Tanabe

Bryzgalov
Lundvist

The team which I thought would be lucky just to qualify for the playoffs and only just did went onto win it in my first season with them! Brilliant!

Wonder is Reinprecht will resign for me now as he's refused 2 contract offers because he doesnt like me! lol

Nurgle · Post by **Nurgle** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:03 pm

Based on your first line setup alone...
Hanzel - Jokinen - Doan Jovo - Morris

I can see why you were in the running for a cup

Even your second line forwards are quite strong (if inconsistant generally) and your second line D are very talented as well.

Throw in a very effective checking line and your little energy line in the 4th there.. and you have a very well rounded team!
Congrats on the win!

Nurgle · Post by **Nurgle** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:13 pm

I should add... I tried the "goon team" thing recently with the Bruins... and its not going quite so well for me so far! Maybe I took the "hulking brute" acquisition a little too far? I use LidasDB.

My lines:
Kessel - Savard - Ryder
Brashear - Yelle - Neil
Dingman - Betts - Ortmeyer
Laraque - Boogard - Lucic

Chara - Wideman
Gill - O'Donnell
Manson - Belak

Clearly my team isn't designed to win with skill

Or at all apparently lol.

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:20 pm

Lol, i am using the LidasDB too. My team this year should be abit different as i've picked up a few more skill players on my forward lines. Chistov has come in to play alongside Jokinen & Doan on the 1st and Comrie has replaced Reinprecht who wouldn't sign a new contract. I also signed Ben Clymer, initially to have him as a d-man but may see how he goes on the checking line.

madball · Post by **madball** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:53 am

I tried a proper "goon"team a while back. I didn't use an editor, I just made stupid trades (using the Bruins) sending someone like Bergeron to Columbus for Jody Shelley, 2nd round pick for Laraque, etc.

The problem I had first of all was that I was WELL under the cap - remember most enforcers make 500K or less (and I didn't know that I could play a whole season and onwards under the cap). My most skilled players were guys like Lappy and Chris Neil. I played the pre-season and quit because of the cap.

So I changed the database to full, took over the Philly Phantoms and hired most of the LNAH goons and raided as many minor league teams for goons (basically did a search for players with 18+ aggression and used name recognition and hockeydb.com & hockeyfights for reference who to get). Played 20 games and my record 3-16-1. How we won 3games I have no idea. I averaged 9 fights a game and had to have at least 27+ players on my roster to deal with the constant suspensions. It was fun for a while but because of all the suspensions I got bored. I may have to do it again sometime soon.

Post by **Primis** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:20 pm

Has anyone tried one of these below the NHL level before? The UHL seems the perfect place to try this out.

I decided it would be fun to take over one of the "fake" UHL teams (Danbury, in honor of the former Trashers) that have no staff at all, and sign a bunch of goons, set them to Berserk and every Aggressive setting I can find, and see what happens in Lidas 2.3..

I named Rick Tocchet head coach, just for kicks.

Scrimmages thus far have been murderous affairs, with several players getting hurt and all sorts of misconducts and fights. Just insanity considering I also have an open camp so there are terrible tryout players out there getting mugged for no other reason than guys like Marc Andre Roy are bored and want something to do.

Then the first exhibition game against Dayton happens.

I win 5-0. However Derek Reinhart leads the way with 34 PIMs. Cory Murphy, Bryce Charpentier, Thierry Douville, JF Soucey, and Marc Andre Roy all walk away with 19 PIM's. Thomas Bellemare has 17. I got Labenski (Dayton's captain) kicked out very early on. Stephen Baby failed me and only walked away with 2 min for Charging.

I awaited suspensions, but none came.

Next game against Jersey... more of the same in a 2-1 loss. This time Baby stepped up with 24 PIM's (?), Roy with 34, Soucy with 27... you get the picture.

This time Douville gets suspended for 2 games. I appeal (why wouldn't I?) which they uphold. In the meantime, I drub Jersey in retribution 6-2 back in Danbury to open the actual season and injure one of their key defensemen for several months.

This is awesome, I'm pretty sure I've found my new favorite way to play. I have PIM's leaders set on my GM front page, and they're all my guys of course. I want to see if I can set a PIM's record or five.

Post by **philou21** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:26 pm

Nurgle wrote:I should add... I tried the "goon team" thing recently with the Bruins... and its not going quite so well for me so far! Maybe I took the "hulking brute" acquisition a little too far? I use LidasDB.

My lines:
Kessel - Savard - Ryder
Brashear - Yelle - Neil
Dingman - Betts - Ortmeyer
Laraque - Boogard - Lucic

Chara - Wideman
Gill - O'Donnell
Manson - Belak

Clearly my team isn't designed to win with skill Or at all apparently lol.

I know it's been post 2 years ago but never saw that one before.

LOL

Nice goon team can't do better than this I think.

Post by **Primis** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:37 pm

23 games in to my UHL Goon adventure now:

Cory Murphy - 349 PIM
Stephen Baby - 329
Marc-Andre Roy - 322
JF Soucy - 293
Derek Reinhart - 287

The UHL record in-game is 401 PIM by Saginaw's Bruce Watson in '00-'01. Yeaaahhh... that mark is gonna' fall.

My team PIM's are (even this early) 2950, and already easily the record there.

I'm 5th in the UHL East (out of 5)... but only by 2 points, with an 8-12-3 record.

Saapas · Post by **Saapas** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:11 pm

I played once in the UHL and a player named Thomas Bellemare had over 700 PIM in less than a half season :penalty:

Post by **Primis** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:23 pm

Saapas wrote:I played once in the UHL and a player named Thomas Bellemare had over 700 PIM in less than a half season

I have/had him on my team (think I mentioned him above), but after about 8 UHL games Edmonton signed him and he was playing (actually sitting mostly) in the AHL.

Sadly, I think I'm about to lose my goalie, Riopel, to the AHL as well. It was a steal I ever had him to begin with... my backup goalie is so bad that right now, with Riopel out for about a week hurt, I'm starting the temp greyed-out EBUG goalie instead because his attributes are better (but hey, the backup was cheap!).

And all this after I've clawed my way up to 2nd in my division.

After 44 games played so far, Cory Murphy has 680 PIM. Marc Andre Roy has 630. Stephen Baby has 601. The top 9 guys in PIM's are all mine, and the Dallas Stars just signed away Robin Big Snake from Muskegon so there goes another competitor to the PIM crown.

I'll post a screenie at season's end, it will be epic I'm sure.

Saapas · Post by **Saapas** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:36 pm

First time when I played EHM 2005 Thomas Bellemare caught my eye when I was playing with Flames. 20 aggression and hitting/checking/strength also very high

Although he has quite good other skills in UHL (He was player marked with a star in the Kalamzoo roster)

Post by **Primis** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:15 pm

OK here's season's end. 5 of my guys made the All-Star team halfway through, by the way -- 4 skaters plus my goalie Riopel.

Murphy and Roy both topping 1000 PIM is awesome. Now check out their +/-. That had me boggled until I realized that my guys spent so much time in the box and on the PK, the GA rarely counted against them. So their +/-'s were very inflated.

I'm actually a tad disappointed here, I thought I could make 10,000 team PIM.

Suspensions weren't so bad. I got maybe 6 or 7 through the course of the season, and almost always to different guys. Always 1 or 2 games, never more. I actually had more difficulty keeping guys from getting nicked up so often, a lot of minor day-to-day type of injuries were suffered. It's hard to play that way for that many games.

And yes, I did make the UHL playoffs as a #3 seed from the East through some miracle (that miracle mainly being that the UHL East was a very, very bad division). I then was knocked out without much of a fight when Riopel went down with his second injury of the season because he'd carried the team.

Kopi · Post by **Kopi** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:12 pm

wonder if anyone tried a goon team in EHM1 with some lower american leagues?

Post by **Primis** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:56 pm

Kopi wrote:wonder if anyone tried a goon team in EHM1 with some lower american leagues?

Been meaning to try it using the tactics I had used previously (I ported the tactics file over). A league like the SPHL or FHL (Is the FHL playable now? I forget) seems to be a good place to try, although I think the potential to wreak havoc in the ECHL is maybe greater, especially with the longer schedule.

The UHL was the perfect play to do what I did previously. Lower level league where skilled guys can't skate them into the ground, but not so low that you couldn't attract some good goons.

Kopi · Post by **Kopi** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:59 pm

Primis wrote:
Kopi wrote:wonder if anyone tried a goon team in EHM1 with some lower american leagues?
Been meaning to try it using the tactics I had used previously (I ported the tactics file over). A league like the SPHL or FHL (Is the FHL playable now? I forget) seems to be a good place to try, although I think the potential to wreak havoc in the ECHL is maybe greater, especially with the longer schedule.

The UHL was the perfect play to do what I did previously. Lower level league where skilled guys can't skate them into the ground, but not so low that you couldn't attract some good goons.

that is what i was thinking...you need to get a lower league with good reputation to actually sign some interesting goons...

Kopi · Post by **Kopi** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:37 am

So in KHL there is not suspension for fighting?

BulldogsFan · Post by **BulldogsFan** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:09 pm

Primis wrote:
Kopi wrote:wonder if anyone tried a goon team in EHM1 with some lower american leagues?
Been meaning to try it using the tactics I had used previously (I ported the tactics file over). A league like the SPHL or FHL (Is the FHL playable now? I forget) seems to be a good place to try, although I think the potential to wreak havoc in the ECHL is maybe greater, especially with the longer schedule.

The UHL was the perfect play to do what I did previously. Lower level league where skilled guys can't skate them into the ground, but not so low that you couldn't attract some good goons.

which tactic is that?

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