The Offical British Ice Hockey Thread

Post by **Calv** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:15 am

There was a bench clearance at the Sheffield-Cardiff game with Andrew Sharp alone getting 121 PIMs:
2+2+Game Misconduct for leaving the bench
Match Penalty for Spearing
Match Penalty for Physical Abuse
5+Game Misconduct for Fighting
2+Game Misconduct for Illegal Equipment

After he speared a linesman causing him to bleed and havign a fight and throwing a water bottle at a player from the bench.Derek Campbell of the Devils also got a match penalty. Sharp will be banned for a minimum of 4 games(1 for the spearing match penalty and 3 for the physical abuse) and will most likely be banned for more.

There's some shakey footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZfznIwgLk - you can see Sharp hit the lino at about 35 seconds.
There's some clearer footage here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_s ... 770014.stm - but it misses the spearing incident

Post by **batdad** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:08 pm

This Sharp guy sounds and looks like a complete absolute tool.

Post by **Calv** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:24 pm

Sharp was bought over here to do one thing only and that was to fight, and he's not even very good at that (here's him against Brett Clouthier - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn46Ri7pTHE - he's in white), the only thing he's go going for him is the fact that he's British so he's not counted as an import. So when he gets into a fight he takes out an import from another team for 5 minutes whereas Sheffield lose a 3rd line Brit who is only going to get 2 points a season. He also likes firing pucks at the opposition during the warmup....

Post by **batdad** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:38 pm

Ahh..the British Sean Avery.

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:39 pm

The thing about Sharp is he's not even good at doing what he was bought into do! He's nowhere near big enough to fight the big guys and only does mediocre against the non-tough guys.

IIRC his only win was against Paul Moran who he jumped and is about 5'8!

Sharp is out of his depth in the EIHL. In both levels of play and fighting abilty

Post by **archibalduk** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:07 pm

He sounds like a bit of an idiot. I'd imagine he's going to receive a very lengthy ban indeed. I wonder if that's a record for PIM for one player in a game?...

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:47 am

I think I heard it is for this level of hockey.

He's a prize tool!

When you consider Voth got banned (initially) for 12 games, Sharp's got to be longer! And what about Lehman? Skating past the Cardiff fans giving them the "Wayne Kerr" sign??

After all the rubbish he's got away with over the years I wouldnt be surprised if he goes unpunished.

Post by **Calv** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:09 pm

Sharp gets 20 game ban
6 for spearing
5 for reckless use of stick
9 for abuse

Doubt lehman will get any though...

Post by **Calv** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:16 am

The penalty awarded against you of a Match for Spearing has been adjusted to a Match penalty for spearing to the Head/Neck area. As a consequence you will be served with the following suspensions:
Match Penalty = 1 game suspension

Spearing head/neck (minimum tariff) = 5 game suspension

Additional suspension after review for reckless use of the stick = 5 game suspension

Match Penalty = 1 game suspension

Physical Abuse of Official (minimum tariff) = 3 game suspension

Additional suspension after review = 5 game suspension

Total number of games 20.
The suspension takes immediate effect.

In addition to the above suspensions should you receive a penalty before, during or after a game has taken place for any of the above offences or leave the team bench to become involved in an altercation the Elite league will have no alternative but to suspend you for the remainder of the 08-09 season.

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:01 am

So in a couple of weeks it'll be reduced to about 10 games. lol

They wont miss him anyway so whats the point - they should make them play an import down for 10 games. lol

Post by **Calv** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:53 am

Went to the Phoenix - Steelers match tonight.

Phoenix started well in the first and caught Steelers a little bit cold, not helped by Andy Carson calling 5 hooking penalties on the Steelers in the first period. Luke Fulgham put Manchester 1-0 and it stayed that way until the 2nd.

In the 2nd period it was back to the Phoenix we know and love....

Classic powerplays of getting the puck into the offensive zone passing it around a bit, not taking any shots until the puck is cleared by Sheffield. Then skate about in the defensive zone for a little bit before repeating the process. Absolutely woeful from the forwards and Sheffield stepped up a gear. Unlike normal Phoenix games the PK did a good job for once....

Sheffield got a goal in the second from a Jeff Legue slapshot from the blueline which was a good goal. They could've had a lot more had it not been for Stephen Murphy saving 18 shots in the 2nd period. He was phenomenal tonight making some really good saves.

The 3rd started off poorly, after 45 seconds Phoenix defenceman Alex Dunn turned over the puck in the Steelers zone and Jonathan Phillips skated away on a breakaway and put Sheffield 2-1 up. Manchester then were toothless up front and Lehman in the Sheffield net was never made to feel uncomfortable and seemingly made about 1 save in the final period.
More classic Phoenix when they pulled the netminder onlyy to not take any shots and give a cheap turnover up and Ashley Tait skated up ice to put it home past a couple of defencemen lying on the floor in the final minute.

Lucas Burnett and Ryan Finnerty had a bit of a fight in the 2nd which was pretty much nothing really, couple of punches thrown, maybe 1 connected by Burnett before he took Finnerty down. Would've preferred a few more punches landed on Finnerty as I have a massive disliking for him, but he fell over 2 times whilst skating so I had a bit of a laugh.

To be fair Sheffield look very good and probably better than Belfast did when I first saw them and they're in a commanding position in the league, so it's reall their's to throw away..

Post by **Calv** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:55 am

Results Saturday 20th December 2008:
bmibaby Elite League:
Hull Stingrays 7-9 Coventry Blaze
Sheffield Steelers 1-4 Newcastle Vipers
Nottingham Panthers 5-4 Cardiff Devils (After Penalty Shots)

Results Sunday 21st December 2008:
bmibaby Elite League:
Newcastle Vipers 6-1 Hull Stingrays
Manchester Phoenix 1-3 Sheffield Steelers
Cardiff Devils 4-1 Basingstoke Bison
Edinburgh Capitals 5-4 Belfast Giants (After Penalty Shots)
Coventry Blaze 0-4 Nottingham Panthers

Post by **archibalduk** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:20 pm

Oh dear, it's worrying if they're going back to the bad old days

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:58 pm

Great win for the Panthers against the Blaze! WOO!

Post by **Calv** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:22 pm

Dwight Parrish leaves Manchester and retires from hockey to take up a job in the US, his last game is against Newcastle on boxing day. Phoenix will be 2 players down as Kyle Bruce is still out with a broken foot. It's been 14 games since Phoenix last played with a full squad...

Post by **Calv** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:02 pm

League table

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     Team  	   GP  	W	WOT	L	LOT	Pts
1 	Sheffield   27 	18 	2 	3 	4 	44
2 	Coventry 	26 	18 	2 	6 	0 	40
3 	Nottingham  27 	16 	3 	6 	2 	40
4 	Belfast 	 26 	16 	2 	7 	1 	37
5 	Manchester  28 	13 	3   10 	2 	34
6 	Cardiff 	 28 	9 	 4	10 	5 	31
7 	Newcastle   28 	8 	 4	13 	3 	27
8 	Edinburgh   31 	7 	 1	18 	5 	21
9 	Hull 	    29 	5 	 2	20 	2 	16
10   Basingstoke 30 	4 	 3	21 	2 	16

Top 10 points scorers:

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Player 	                   Team 	     Pld   G 	A	Pts 	
David-Alexandre Beauregard	Manchester	32	34	26	60
Greg Chambers	             Basingstoke  33	17	38	55
Mark Hurtubise	            Edinburgh	 35	17	32	49
Sylvain Deschatelets	      Coventry	  30	18	30	48
Adam Calder	               Coventry	  30	22	24	46
Dan Carlson	               Coventry	  30	14	32	46
Dan Tessier	               Nottingham   28	12	32   44
Tony Hand	                 Manchester   30	 9	33	42
Paul Deniset	              Belfast	   23	20	21	41
Brent Hughes	              Basingstoke  34	13	28	41

Players with 100+ PIMs:

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Player            Team        GP   PIM
Andrew Sharp	   Sheffield	31	208
Adam Stefishen	 Edinburgh	28	199
Jeremy Cornish	 Basingstoke 34	165
Douglas MacIver	Cardiff	  31	153
Ruman Ndur	     Nottingham  28	150
Brad Voth	      Cardiff	  18	141
Andre Payette	  Newcastle	32	137
Carlyle Lewis	  Coventry	 30	130
Rob Wilson	     Newcastle	27	112
Jay Latulippe	  Cardiff	  27	104
Kyle Bruce	     Manchester  29	100

Goalies:

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Player              Team        Pld	 GAA     S%       PIM	
Adam Summerfield 	Manchester 	2 	0 	   100% 	 0
Michel Robinson 	 Nottingham 	7 	2.29 	93.2% 	0
Jody Lehman 	     Sheffield 	32 	2.23 	92.1% 	32
Andrew Verner 	   Newcastle 	31 	3.31 	91.8% 	6
JF Perras 	       Coventry 	 30 	2.72 	91.7% 	6
Peter Aubry 	     Cardiff 	  31 	2.70 	91.5% 	4
Pasi Raitanen 	   Edinburgh 	11 	3.36 	91.2% 	0
Geoff Woolhouse 	 Nottingham 	3 	4.00 	90.7% 	2
Stephen Murphy 	  Manchester   30 	3.03 	90.1% 	4
Nathan Craze 	    Belfast 	   8 	2.60 	89.8% 	0
Kevin Reiter 	    Basingstoke  30 	4.34 	89.6% 	26
Curtis Cruickshank  Hull 	     31 	4.17 	89% 	  4
Davis Parley 	    Nottingham   21 	3.35 	88.8% 	4
Stevie Lyle 	     Belfast  	 28 	3.08 	88.4% 	4

Post by **Calv** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:40 pm

The mythical EIHL Rule book comes out again:

Belfast Giants player/coach Steve Thornton has been suspended for two games by the bmibaby Elite League with immediate effect. Following a request from the Hull Stingrays for Supplementary Discipline following an alleged tripping incident in the game between the two sides in Belfast on December 18th, league officials studied the video evidence on Christmas Eve and finalised their conclusions on Boxing Day.

In the game on December 18th, Steve Thornton became involved with Stingrays netminder Curtis Cruickshank in an incident that saw the Hull goalie sustain injury. Whilst no penalty was adjudged against Thornton on the night, the Hull Stingrays felt strongly enough to request a review of the game tape.

League officials reviewed the video evidence and judged that Thornton was guilty of Tripping Cruickshank and that the incident was serious enough to warrant a Match Suspension. Furthermore in view of the incident involving a netminder and resulting in an injury, officials have assessed the Giants player/coach an additional one game suspension.

Steve Thornton will miss the Giants games at home on December 27th versus the Edinburgh Capitals and the away game in Hull on December 28th. The suspensions also preclude him from appearing on the team bench and acting as bench coach.

And a clip of the incident: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PLfzppcvM

UTVAGoalie · Post by **UTVAGoalie** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:59 pm

Wow, that's pathetic. That looks like it was just in passing, not intentional.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:02 pm

Yeah, that look's harsh to me.

Post by **batdad** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:58 am

Guys...he does stick out his leg and drag it as he goes by. Sorry, but that was dirty. Not a long extension, but a clear extension. Leg whip trips are one of the dirtiest plays in the game. Maybe did not do it intentionally, but the video says...nasty.

Post by **joehelmer** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:27 am

Here's one from another angle, where you actually see that he stick out his leg to trip the goalie:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzY48mSq ... re=related

As it is a player injury and it really seems to be intentionally as he sticks his leg out even though he has to do to turn, but he could have wait to turn aft that he had skated passed the goalie, so a match ban isn't wrong according to me, but a two games is a harsh call by the league.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:08 pm

The second video definately shows a leg trailing in order to clip the Goalie. What was the injury sustained by Cruickshank?

Post by **Calv** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:51 pm

He got concussion, causing him to miss the next game(and maybe more but I'm not 100% sure)

Post by **Calv** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:55 pm

Results Saturday 27th December 2008:
bmibaby Elite League:
Basingstoke Bison 5 Hull Stingrays 4
Belfast Giants 5 Edinburgh Capitals 3
Coventry Blaze 3 Cardiff Devils 0
Newcastle Vipers 2 Manchester Phoenix 3
Nottingham Panthers 2 Sheffield Steelers 1 (After Overtime)

Results Friday 26th December 2008:
bmibaby Elite League:
Sheffield Steelers 5 Nottingham Panthers 2
Manchester Phoenix 3 Newcastle Vipers 2
Cardiff Devils 3 Coventry Blaze 1

Post by **Calv** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:58 pm

Both of the Nottingham - Sheffield game attracted 7,000 fans to them this weekend which is a great achievement for a minority sport in the UK.(apparently 7,125 turned up to the Friday game and 7,128 turned up to the saturday game)

A good weekend for the Steelers and the Phoenix and Belfast didn't seem to miss Thornton that much.

Hull are now bottom of the league after they lost to Basingstoke.