Lidas Rosters 2008/09 - Mistakes/Omissions/Tweaks/Etc

Post by **batdad** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:13 am

I believe that has already been taken care of in the next update. It is somewhere above in this thread. Reading...ugh.

harmonica · Post by **harmonica** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:24 am

I actually read through the entire thread, but never saw any confirmation of a change.

PS - Batdad, I hope your next first round pick wants to play in Europe!!!!!!!!!

Post by **Lidas** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:00 pm

harmonica wrote:I actually read through the entire thread, but never saw any confirmation of a change.

PS - Batdad, I hope your next first round pick wants to play in Europe!!!!!!!!!

Lol

about the draftpick.

I've chosen to remove all injuries for the next update. It will screw up some budgets for sure, but I believe it's the best thing to do. By removing injuries that were on players from the beginning of the season, I also don't need to care about injuries that happened in the season.

The Hutch · Post by **The Hutch** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:39 pm

Marek Schwarz bolted to Europe, signing with his hometown BK Mlada Boleslav of the Czech elite league.

Not sure how this could be updated, but apparently the Malmo Redhawks have released all of their contracted players

ozziethesaint · Post by **ozziethesaint** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:41 am

The Hutch wrote:Marek Schwarz bolted to Europe, signing with his hometown BK Mlada Boleslav of the Czech elite league.

I was very surprised by this... Marek seemed to understand that he needed to be more consistent to get back to the AHL level and reclaim his prospect rating. Then next thing, he's on his way home. It sucks because he was a very nice guy and I hoped to see him succeed, even if meant being the back up to Bishop, both here in Peoria, and then eventually in St. Louis

Post by **batdad** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:02 am

I get it. Would you want to play in Alaska if you were a hockey player, or back in your home country for more money. I know which I would choose. The Blues played around with him big time. AHL-ECHL-NHL-AHL-ECHL over and over. Can't say I would be happy with that

Post by **Lidas** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:07 am

The Hutch wrote:Marek Schwarz bolted to Europe, signing with his hometown BK Mlada Boleslav of the Czech elite league.

Not sure how this could be updated, but apparently the Malmo Redhawks have released all of their contracted players

Already did the Schwarz transfer.
The Malmö players are not released, but they are all free to go.
Danish Totempo HVIK have gone bankrupt and released all their players though.

laskey 16 · Post by **laskey 16** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:16 pm

Forsberg has signed with MODO.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=601017

Surprising, to me at least. There's also been the Dan Fristche-Erik Reitz trade, Parros has re-signed in Anaheim and of course Zetterberg got a huge pay-day.

I'm sure you already know about these anyway.

Yep, already done. Also downgraded Foppa a bit. \ Lidas

FloridaFlyer86 · Post by **FloridaFlyer86** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:06 pm

Hey guys, great job on the roster Lidas.

I made it to the off season between my second and third season and whenever I try to advance to July 1st my game crashes. I am just curious if anyone else has experienced this when using the roster update.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:57 pm

Nightmare wrote:First of all thanks for listening. I will post some stats for the above-named and others:
Stanislav Galimov of Ak Bars Kazan has a 1.77 GAA and a 92.7%SVS in 20 games this season
Ilya Proskuryakov of Metallurg Magnitogorsk has a 2.27 GAA and a 91.4%SVS in 28 games
Sergei Bobrovsky of Metallurg Novokuznetsk has a 2.70 GAA and a 92.2%SVS in 22 games
Sergei Gayduchenko of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl has only played 3 games but he has an astonishing 94.1% SVS and 1.61 GAA
taking into account that one of the most talented goalies of the world right now, Semen Varlamov, had a 90.9SVS% and a 2.45GAA, it tells something about these youngsters.
I think that one of the most underrated players in the game might be Alexander(Aleksandr) Eremenko, who is viewed by many as one of the world's premiere goaltenders. From my point of view he's great all-around, with no real weaknesses.He has had two great seasons both for Salavat and for the National team, for example, at the 2007 WC he had 0.98GAA and 95.7SVS% in 6 games, which tells you a lot. For more info about them i(at least stat wise) i reccomend you www.eliteprospects.com, www.khl.ru or www.eurohockey.net . As i said there are a lot of players in Russia that need re-rating. If i can help you any forther, just mention it, I'd be glad to help anyway i can.
P.S.:Forgot to Mention Jan Marek, definitely one of the best centers in the world, who has reigned supreme this season.

Ive done some upgrading to the keepers, but you cant really compare stats from different leagues. I'm open for any other suggestions to attribute changes, but if possible, please suggest solid numbers for the changes. \ Lidas

I am sorry but i have not mentioned something pretty important, and that is that i was talking about Semen Varlamov's stats last year, while playing in the RSL(now KHL), so i think that is a fair comparison.

Post by **batdad** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:39 pm

But but the KHL is so much better than the RSL last year, so how could it be comparable.

I really was joking around there Nightmare....

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:03 am

batdad wrote:But but the KHL is so much better than the RSL last year, so how could it be comparable.

I really was joking around there Nightmare....

Well, in that case, you'd have to make them that much better!

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:48 am

Now seriously, were they taken in the NHL draft? Are their scouting reports on them that say they have a chance of being a #1 goalie in the NHL like there are all over the place for Varlamov?

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:06 am

batdad wrote:

Now seriously, were they taken in the NHL draft? Are their scouting reports on them that say they have a chance of being a #1 goalie in the NHL like there are all over the place for Varlamov?

Not that I'd want another argument, but someone named Martin St. Louis was actually never drafted. If a player of his skill is not seen by the ISS, than there is certainly something wrong with them. And he is not the only one, look at Datsyuk, 7th round pick that developed to be one of the best ceters in the world.

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:51 am

Yes we know that some guys were not drafted. Very very few, and yes occasionally scouts miss a guy. However, they are also the most respected link to how we can rate players in the game, other than stats. And stats from different leagues vs how someone would do in any other league are not that comparable.

I am not saying that the scout report is be all and end all, however it is the best way to get some information on a player or players. If you look at percentages of undrafted players making the NHL...it is what 1%, 2%? Same thing for guys taken after the 3rd round 10%? So...they are statistically quite accurate.

Maybe out of every 50 players in the NHL 1 is undrafted, and 1 is a player that has bloomed beyond the expectation of where they were drafted. so....overall it is at best a 3-5% chance (giving credit) that ALL of the scouts missed something, or ranked the player too low. Yep, one or two would miss...or 3-5% of the scouts...but certainly not all of them.

So again, for the sake of asking...are their any scout reports on these players? Projections?

Oh and if you really want them to be stars, you could always just edit them into your game, and post your figures and those who wish to could edit them in that way. And I include Lidas in that.

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:23 am

There are a couple, but i will need some time to compile them.

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:25 am

Post by **Shadd666** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:56 am

I double batdad on the scouting stuff: it's by far the most accurate way to evaluate a player. Then, "most accurate" doesn't mean "100% accurate". There are always mistakes, misjudgements, etc. But when you consider a mistake ratio of (way) less than 5% and then consider it's done by humans (naturally not perfect), it's already incredibly accurate.

Then you need to scout a player several times and by several different scouts to get a more accurate view on him. If just one scout seen the guy on one of his worst games of the season, he probably won't be excited about the kid. And there are thousands of draft eligible players every year, so the ISS doesn't necessarily have the possibility to scout all of them in depth, and has to make choices at some point. In the end, some guys may end up under their radar, but rarely under the radar of other scouts (ie Datsuyk, not missed by Red Wings scouts). A few guys are missed by everyone though (St. Louis). But it's really exceptionnal...

hartmans · Post by **hartmans** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:33 pm

Minor, minor, minor thing....
Mark Bell (Toronto Maple Leas/Marlies) is from St. Pauls, Ontario, not St Paul, Alberta.

My brother plays rec league with his brother....

tksolway · Post by **tksolway** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:04 pm

Well, I went through the long list of replies here and I noticed that no one has looked at the Oilers yet, so I'll drop my two cents on the table. BTW thanks for the DB lidas, it is very good. I like the fact that you are going to remove the injuries too.

There are some tweeks for Oilers players I think should be done. I only offer since I follow them religiously. However, I am doing my best not to be a total homer here

. As much as I like the fact that O'Marra is a top flight player in the game, he isn't going to be etc.

I'll start with the Prospects. I won’t add the attributes I think they should have beyond the potential, simply because I don’t have enough experience with it. You’re the expert .

Taylor Chorney should stay -7, but we need to fill out his 0s. Otherwise he ends up being useless every game. He's projected to be a 3-4 offensive defensemen. He doesn't have a cannon, but his is a good passer and fast skater. Not a hitter though. Also a good leader, he's captained the US National team etc.

Jeff Petry is rated as the Oilers top prospect at the moment, he’s projected as a possible 1-2 pairing D-Man, so he should have a -8 Potential. He’s projected as a two-way defensemen, not a hard hitter, but he can through them. He’s virtually all zeros, so I will leave his attributes for you to figure out, you’re the expert. He’s definitely at least a couple years away though.

Andrew Cogliano has a potential rating of -14. He’s pretty much proven he’s a top 6 forward material. He’s on pace for 20 goals this season, at the age of 21. Also he won the fastest skater competition, his current speed is 14, definitely should be higher than that.

I’m not sure what needs to be done with Tom Gilbert, but his ratings do seem low for someone going on his second 40+ point season. He hasn’t got a cannon, but he knows when to jump up in the play, and has an accurate wrist shot from the point. (also make very good outlet passes).

Ryan O’Marra should go down to a -7 potential instead of 160. He should also be given a more defensive skill set, with offensive upside. He’s very good at faceoffs. He’s projected to be a 2-3rd line Two-Way forward. At the moment he ends up being a first line scorer.

Cody Wild has all zeros too, he’s in the top 5 of the depth chart at the moment, projected as a second pairing two way defensemen a few years down the road.

Reddox should stay the same in potential, but he's not a scorer, and has developed as a defensive forward, a 4th liner at best, but defensive none-the-less

Also, there are some Position changes.

Rob Shremp should be LW/C, O’Marra should be C/RW, and Smid should be LD/RD/LW

Thanks for listening to my ramblings.

Thanks for your suggestions. I hope you'll find your Oilers more accurate in 1.2 / Lidas

tksolway · Post by **tksolway** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:05 pm

Sorry Double Post

SaugeenCowboy · Post by **SaugeenCowboy** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:57 am

Amazing rosters, thanks again for all your great work...I was playing along and found a pretty big issue.

The Dallas Stars, who have no AHL affiliate are all screwed up...they sign and release players left right and centre...and in one of my more recent games they released Jere Lehtinen and Mike Ribeiro.

Perhaps in the name of greater realism...we could deviate a little and add an AHL affiliate for the Stars.

Still great work all around!

Alex the Tall · Post by **Alex the Tall** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:02 am

SaugeenCowboy wrote:Amazing rosters, thanks again for all your great work...I was playing along and found a pretty big issue.

The Dallas Stars, who have no AHL affiliate are all screwed up...they sign and release players left right and centre...and in one of my more recent games they released Jere Lehtinen and Mike Ribeiro.

Perhaps in the name of greater realism...we could deviate a little and add an AHL affiliate for the Stars.

Still great work all around!

samething with the Blackhawks and the Avalanche in my game...

Post by **joehelmer** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:06 pm

The Globe Arena in Stockholm has got a new name: Ericsson Globe.

Fixat! / Lidas

cawiro · Post by **cawiro** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:19 am

Hey Lidas, i have another list of players for you, mainly from U.S Colleges.

Bourque, Ryan = U.S National development team
Pryor, Nick = Des Moines Buccaneers
Schroeder, Jordan = Minnesota Golden Gophers
Frazer, Joey = Medicine Hat Tigers
Burke, Greg = Cedar Rapid RoughRiders
Nicastro, Max = Chicago Steel
Swan, Bryce = St. Francis Xavier Xmen
Morrison, Brett = St. Francis Xavier Xmen
Hegarty, Ryan = Maine Black Bears
Auffrey, Matt = Florida Everblades
Forney, Michael = Green Bay Gamblers
Leveille Daulton = Michigan State Spartans (and it's Daultan not Daulton)
O'Neill Will = Maine Black Bears
Saponari, Vinny = Boston U. Terriers
Warsofski, David = Boston U. Terriers
Berti, Chris = Retired
Cousineau, Marcel = Retired
Schultz, Justin = Westside Warriors
Bailey, Joshua = He's still with NYI not Windsor
Beach, Kyle = Lethbridge Hurricanes
Trivino, Corey = Boston U. Terriers
Goloubef, Cody = Wisconsin Badgers
Wiercioch, Patrick = Denver Pioneers
Dalpe, Zac = Ohio st. Buckeyes
Kugryshev, Dmitri = Quebec Remparts
Daniels, Justin = Sioux City Musketeers
Fienhage, Corey = North Dakota Fighting Sioux
Winkler, Scott = Cedar Rapids Roughriders
Donovan, Matt = Cedar Rapids Roughriders
Jokinen, Justin = Minnesota-Mankato
Kristo, Danny = Omaha Lancers
Olson, Drew = Omaha Lancers
Pateryn, Greg = Michigan Wolverines
Rollheiser, Grant = Boston U. Terriers
Witkowski, Luke = Fargo Force (new team in USHL this year. Fargo-Moorhead Jets of the NAHL stop it's activities)
Collins, Sean (1987) = Cornell Big Red
MacWilliam Andrew = North Dakota Fighting Sioux
Bartkowski, Matt = Ohio st. Buckeyes
Gleason, Joe = North Dakota Fighting Sioux
Daniels, Drew = Sioux City Musketeers
Condon, Nathan = Fargo Force
Legein, Stefan = Retired Did he decide to give up on his comeback and retire (again)?
Marshall, Kevin = Quebec Remparts
Sacchetti, Nico = Minnesota Golden Gophers
Weber, Will = Miami-Ohio Redhawks
Hansen, Jake = Minnesota Golden Gophers
Gregoire, Jason = North Dakota Fighting Sioux
Killorn, Alexander = Harvard Crimson
Tropp, Corey = Sioux Falls Stampede (Suspended from Michigan State for reminder of 08-09 season)
Conboy, Andrew = Hamilton Bulldogs (Suspended from Michigan State for reminder of 08-09 season)
Bruneteau, Brett = Des Moines Buccaneers
Patterson, Kent = Minnesota Golden Gophers
Blood, Ben = North Dakota Fighting Sioux
Lavin, Joe = Omaha Lancers (quit providence after 12 games)
Smith, Austin = Colgate Raiders
Lee, John = Denver Pioneers
Carey, Paul = Boston College Eagles
Roman, Ondrej = he returned with the Spokane Chiefs
Messier Charles-Antoine = Granby Inouk
Marshall, Matt = Vermont Catamounts
Darling, Scott = Maine Black Bears
York, Allen = R.P.I Engineers
Goulet, Alain = Gatineau Olympiques
Kessel, Blake = New Hampshire Wildcats
Nill, Trevor = Michigan st. Spartans
Kishel, Scott = Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs
Hobbs, Danny = Massachusetts Minutemen
Glass, Andrew = Boston U. Terriers
MacKenzie = Vermont Catamounts
Vogelhuber, Trent = Miami-Ohio Redhawks

All added, good job!

And i also have a good list of US College commitments and QMJHL Draft Picks trades. Let me know if you need them.

Sure, bring it on! It would be great if you could post them so I can just paste them into the extra_config file. / Lidas

Lidas Rosters 2008/09 - Mistakes/Omissions/Tweaks/Etc

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