Alexei Cherepanov has passed away. - R.I.P.

Deleted 25-08-19 · Post by **Deleted 25-08-19** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:10 am

Yep, i will check, where Wallinheimo was. (He was on loan from JYP)

He was in Moscow Dynamo on loan.

Sorry again my bad english.

Post by **A9L3E** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:03 pm

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet? ... AsRGC1UCbE

Read "ThePoonener's" comments (at the bottom)...

Post by **joehelmer** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:15 pm

Well, he's obviously not very smart. Don'tknow anything about respect towards the players from the fans. He got the thumb down from me.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:13 pm

The Rangers are now seeking compensation in the form of a 2nd round pick in this years draft. Saying that Alexei would still have been eligible...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3688410

LoXish · Post by **LoXish** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:28 am

While the timing may not be great, the compensatory pick makes sense.

Post by **joehelmer** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:38 pm

I've read that KHL has a award named Alexei Cherepanov Award, don't what it is for though.

I found it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontinental_Hockey_League

Post by **Alessandro** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:28 pm

joehelmer wrote:I've read that KHL has a award named Alexei Cherepanov Award, don't what it is for though.

I found it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontinental_Hockey_League

Rookie of the Year award

Post by **B. Stinson** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:13 pm

getzlaf15 wrote:The Rangers are now seeking compensation in the form of a 2nd round pick in this years draft. Saying that Alexei would still have been eligible...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3688410

Heh... leave it to the Rangers to want compensation for a prospect's death.

"Screw him, we want our pick back!"

$:\$

Post by **joehelmer** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:19 pm

I agree that it was a bad thing of the Rangers, they could have waited some time before claiming to get their pick back, if they would have ever done it.

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:20 pm

B. Stinson wrote:
getzlaf15 wrote:The Rangers are now seeking compensation in the form of a 2nd round pick in this years draft. Saying that Alexei would still have been eligible...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3688410
Heh... leave it to the Rangers to want compensation for a prospect's death.

"Screw him, we want our pick back!"

$:\$

Sure the timing is bad, but what where they supposed to do? Any other team would have done the same.

Post by **B. Stinson** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:37 pm

but what where they supposed to do?

Maybe it's just me, but I would think the moral thing to do would be to respect the loss of a young prospect and move on; Not to look at his death as if they're being ripped-off, and demand pay-back.

But again, that's just me.

Post by **Alessandro** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:38 pm

B. Stinson wrote:
getzlaf15 wrote:The Rangers are now seeking compensation in the form of a 2nd round pick in this years draft. Saying that Alexei would still have been eligible...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3688410
Heh... leave it to the Rangers to want compensation for a prospect's death.

"Screw him, we want our pick back!"

$:\$

........................................................................................

Tell about compensation to the poor Alexei's mother or father...

Americans $:\$

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:51 pm

B. Stinson wrote:
but what where they supposed to do?
Maybe it's just me, but I would think the moral thing to do would be to respect the loss of a young prospect and move on; Not to look at his death as if they're being ripped-off, and demand pay-back.

But again, that's just me.

They would have done the same if he had gotten a career ending knee injury or become crippled, the compensation rule was created for situations like this.

Post by **B. Stinson** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:28 am

Alessandro wrote:
B. Stinson wrote:
getzlaf15 wrote:The Rangers are now seeking compensation in the form of a 2nd round pick in this years draft. Saying that Alexei would still have been eligible...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3688410
Heh... leave it to the Rangers to want compensation for a prospect's death.

"Screw him, we want our pick back!"

$:\$
........................................................................................

Tell about compensation to the poor Alexei's mother or father...

Americans $:\$

This is about the Rangers... not us Americans.

Post by **Alessandro** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:15 am

B. Stinson wrote:
Alessandro wrote:
B. Stinson wrote: Heh... leave it to the Rangers to want compensation for a prospect's death.

"Screw him, we want our pick back!"

$:\$
........................................................................................

Tell about compensation to the poor Alexei's mother or father...

Americans $:\$
This is about the Rangers... not us Americans.

Yes sorry, you are completely right.
But you can understand that when I read this I felt really bitter and upset in front of such "pragmatism"

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:36 pm

This really can't be dumped on "Americans". Glen Sather is Canadian. Even though Canada is in North America, I doubt Sather would consider himself an American. And from everything I've read, the Russian running the arena where Cherepanov was playing or maybe even the league he was playing in might hold some responsibility in his death. Rather than making this about nationalities, wouldn't it be better to make it about businesses? Or even better, we could not point fingers and just acknowledge that it was a sad loss of a young life?

Nurgle · Post by **Nurgle** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:15 pm

I don't mean to cause a stir, or disgrace the memory of Cherepanov in any way, however I came across these articles today.

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/559166

http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/nhlnews/s ... ories.atom

For those without the time or the inclination to read them, they suggest that there is evidence that Cherepanov was doping.

There are a multitude of questions that these articles raise, far more than they answer.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:34 pm

I read the blood doping articles too, there's so many twists and turns into this young mans story. I think this should just be laid to rest, and let Alexei Rest in Peace.

The Hutch · Post by **The Hutch** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:18 am

Alexei himself should be left alone, but unfortunately the potential issues here do require further investigation to prevent a repeat from ever happening.

If the articles are true, and his condition should have kept him from playing hockey at all, then this raises questions on his family and the coaches/teams he has played for. How much importance do they put on athletics. Who knew he had this condition? Who knew he was blood doping? How many (If any people) turned a blind eye?

There's just unfortunately too many questions about this that need answers.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:27 am

Screams of cover up for Russian hockey league. Sorry, but it does. I think that if he was blood doping, which is entirely possible, it did not start until after he was drafted and thus screened already by the NHL. But man, honestly...really not sure.

The Hutch · Post by **The Hutch** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:39 am

batdad wrote:Screams of cover up for Russian hockey league. Sorry, but it does. I think that if he was blood doping, which is entirely possible, it did not start until after he was drafted and thus screened already by the NHL. But man, honestly...really not sure.

I definetly think the Russian league was all for it. I mean, could they not have been lined up for a mad fat transfer fee from the Rangers to get him to North America next season?

Post by **Tasku** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:48 am

Honestly though, with teams paying tens of millions of dollars and getting around 5000 spectators to a game by concept the league doesn't sound like a money maker. More like a moneygiver.

Not sure how much these megamillionares / businesses who own these teams care about the money and making profit. There must be other motives.

If they would be all about making money, they would not pay million dollar wages while only about 5000 paying spectators attend each game and teams are making losses by the millions.

The Hutch · Post by **The Hutch** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:59 am

Tasku wrote:Honestly though, with teams paying tens of millions of dollars and getting around 5000 spectators to a game by concept the league doesn't sound like a money maker. More like a moneygiver.

Not sure how much these megamillionares / businesses who own these teams care about the money and making profit. There must be other motives.

If they would be all about making money, they would not pay million dollar wages while only about 5000 paying spectators attend each game and teams are making losses by the millions.

They would if they were following the Phoenix Coyotes' business model!

*rimshot*

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:37 am

As far as I understand Russian hockey gets the big bucks from sponsors rather than ticket sales.
Something that makes sense in a country where there is a few very big, very rich corporations and the average person is poor by Western standards.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:38 pm

I just saw a new article announcing that doctors has been found not to blame for his death. The team doctors will not face a criminal investigation.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/9813 ... %27s-death