Hot Prospects: The official draft/youth/prospects thread

binchnunker · Post by **binchnunker** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:55 am

Batdad, right above the screenshot is a little piece of another pic.. says

6 Duthie, Seamus C/LW CAN 1 11 Islanders

i'm guessing 1st round, 11th overall

also.. with my Blues.. who are off to a great start.. 0-8-0..

anyone ever develop Nick Drazenovic or Michal Birner? (original DB)

Post by **batdad** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:38 am

Geez...that picture there is agist. How is an old guy like me supposed to see a tiny little blue picture, with tiny little white writing, immediately above another blue photo. Sheesh. Come on you young whippersnappers.

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:38 am

miked1991 wrote:Which goalie do you find turns out better in the long term, the Hasek regen in season 4 or the Canadian guy with the acrobatic style in season 5? I've no idea who the canadian is, but he was ranked #1 by ISL both pre-season and mid-season, but dropped to #2 for the final rankings. Anyone ever taken both goalies and found out which develops better?

I've got both, going to play the Hasek regen in the AHL for 2 years, then the Canadian won't be CHL eligable anymore so I'll put him as the AHL guy and hopefully Hasek regen can step up to NHL and take 40 games at that point (He's already a match on Weekes my currant backup lol, but I'd rather he played every game in the AHL for now).

Acrobatic Canadian might be CuJo iirc.

miked1991 · Post by **miked1991** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:51 pm

Franck wrote:
miked1991 wrote:Which goalie do you find turns out better in the long term, the Hasek regen in season 4 or the Canadian guy with the acrobatic style in season 5? I've no idea who the canadian is, but he was ranked #1 by ISL both pre-season and mid-season, but dropped to #2 for the final rankings. Anyone ever taken both goalies and found out which develops better?

I've got both, going to play the Hasek regen in the AHL for 2 years, then the Canadian won't be CHL eligable anymore so I'll put him as the AHL guy and hopefully Hasek regen can step up to NHL and take 40 games at that point (He's already a match on Weekes my currant backup lol, but I'd rather he played every game in the AHL for now).
Acrobatic Canadian might be CuJo iirc.

I'm guessing its not every game when this goalie turns out so good as everyone seems to know of the Hasek regen, but a goalie is ranked #2 for the draft a year later in my game (first goalie to come top 10 in any draft) and there doesn't seem to be a definate answer to who he is.

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:17 pm

I think the knowledge of the Hasek regen is more down to him being very easy to spot and that Hasek retires early in game rather than his skill.

miked1991 · Post by **miked1991** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:09 pm

Franck wrote:I think the knowledge of the Hasek regen is more down to him being very easy to spot and that Hasek retires early in game rather than his skill.

hmm perhaps, but I'm sure many on here would know about it if a goalie always comes up in the top 5 for the 2011 draft, and I'd expect people would have tried to find out who it was.

The player only has a consistancy of 12 so maybe he doesn't come up high in the draft very often.

binchnunker · Post by **binchnunker** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:30 pm

That goalie might also have a random potential, something like a -9

miked1991 · Post by **miked1991** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:43 pm

binchnunker wrote:That goalie might also have a random potential, something like a -9

Could you explain how the potentials work? I know they're not visable and go up to 200, higher the better they can potentially develop, but what does negative do? And whats the differance between a -1 and a -9?

Post by **batdad** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:10 pm

Sometimes Hasek sucks...I had a Hasek regen in a game that was not drafted, and never left Europe. Why? Because of low #s and low determ and work rate. Potential was there, but he never developed. He just never seemed to quite get it. So it does happen.

Potential chart is here in abiout 100 places miked.

Lakrisal · Post by **Lakrisal** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:55 pm

batdad wrote:Geez...that picture there is agist. How is an old guy like me supposed to see a tiny little blue picture, with tiny little white writing, immediately above another blue photo. Sheesh. Come on you young whippersnappers.

haha yeah my bad

... no well actually he was rankad #11 (why i do not know!) and was draftad #6 overall, before among others Teemu Pulkinnen (bah spelling)

LoXish · Post by **LoXish** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:10 pm

The canadian is Joseph.

binchnunker · Post by **binchnunker** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:24 am

I just noticed that in my Lidas 1.0 Vancouver Giants game, Michal Repik is 7 foot 3...

Peterman5000 · Post by **Peterman5000** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:56 pm

This guy at times plays great.

I'm currently forcing him in the lineup with two good wingers.

Some games he plays well, notching a point or two, then goes into the shed, unseen.

My question is simple. has anyone had any luck in improving this kids skating and general fitness?

I have good offensive coaches and he just will not improve. His skating is disgusting, most attributes under 10.

MOD NOTE: I've merged this into the prospects thread. Joshua Bailey doesn't really need his own thread. - B72

deathknot · Post by **deathknot** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:06 am

since my team is super defence i normally draft offence players.

sadly i have not found anyone in the draft lately but i have been finding some good gems in europe and signing them

TomBlain · Post by **TomBlain** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:40 pm

I'm playing Nashville right now and I'm about to finish my 2009-10 season. Back in year 1 I drafted Jonathon Blum (not out of irony but because I actually listened to my scouts). I have scoutted Blum multiple times, every year from his draft year til now. Every year he projects to be a 1-2 defenseman including now.

2009-10 was his first year in the AHL with the Milwaukee Admirals. He definitely played better than expected (80 Games 7 goals, 43 assists, so far 1-7-8 in 13 playoff games). His attributes on the offensive and defensive side are decent but mixed with a lot of 11s.

Here is an image:
http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/al ... ic_id=1417

So I haven't been great at developing 1st round guys in the past for whatever reason and since Blum should be a top pairing defenseman I don't want to screw him up. Right now I'm thinking about 2010-11 (when he will turn 22). He has proven he can play at a high level in the AHL but his attrs don't tell me he is ready for the NHL. Should I keep him in the AHL for one more year of seasoning and domination? Or should I push him at a young age to the challenges of the NHL?

Now is the time for me to decide because it will mean I should or shouldn't look for a 5th/6th defender in free agency. Currently my defense can survive without him (Redden, Erhoff, Murphy) but if I could easily squeeze him in. I'm leaning towards one more year of AHL just because I know he can handle it and defensemen take longer to develop anyway.

Ideas from the prospect/youth forum?

selne · Post by **selne** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:30 pm

Put him on the 3rd pairing and 2nd pp line. Scout him with your best scouts while he's playing at NHL level. They could change their minds about his potenital.

TomBlain · Post by **TomBlain** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:37 pm

selne wrote:Put him on the 3rd pairing and 2nd pp line. Scout him with your best scouts while he's playing at NHL level. They could change their minds about his potenital.

Yeah I could give him some short stints and then pull him back to the AHL. I think I have enough disposable 3rd pair defensemen to give it a try.

Richie Daggers Crime · Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:49 am

TomBlain wrote: I'm leaning towards one more year of AHL just because I know he can handle it and defensemen take longer to develop anyway.

I'd probably start him in the AHL. A 7.10 rating is solid, but unspectacular. I usually don't give serious thought to moving players up unless they're consistently over 7.8 or it's a special case. Make him your first call-up option if you'd like to see how he responds to the NHL in limited action.

watts555 · Post by **watts555** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:59 am

How does Brayden Schenn develop?

jtilson23 · Post by **jtilson23** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:17 pm

In my games Brayden Schenn has both developed very well, and also been only OK. I like him though but he has a bit low of a consistency for me. 13 I think...

My question (hope I get a good answer):

I guess the hardest part of the real NHL and the game is what I'm having most difficulty with. I seem to have no problem drafting well enough, although I think a few times I've jumped the gun and dealt some picks/players in order to move up the draft so I can pick up a player I want/need.

Basically, I'm asking for information in regards to when a player is ready to come up.

In my current game, I left Cody Hodgson in the juniors for his entire eligibility and then let him play 1 year in the AHL. In the Juniors he was averaging 3PPG (this is by far the best version of Hodgson I've seen), and in the AHL in his first year he had something like 138pts throughout the season. I also called him up for my playoff run as my second line center went out with an ACL injury and Hodgson ended up getting 22pts in 15 games, so he is very successful.

His rookie season in the NHL he won the Calder with 74 points in 62 games, doing well once again.

While he was tearing up the AHL his passing was 18, wristshot was 17, and stamina was 17. All greens. Since his 1 1/2 years in the NHL they've all dropped to 16 and he seems to be getting tired very quickly. He is currently 23 turning 24 very shortly. I know some people can't cut it and you can hurt someone by rushing them, but I don't know how much longer I could have waited.

My question is: Why are his attributes dropping. Is it because I am not practicing the "right" things. And how many seasons in the AHL do you reccomend? 1 full season or 2 full seasons?

Post by **timmy_t** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:25 pm

There are a couple of things that will affect his attributes. But with the description you gave I think it may be your NHL practice schedule and his ice time. Can you give a little more info about these two things? Avg time on ice, including pp and pk. And also the attributes of your coaches and how you have your practice set.

WelshWizard · Post by **WelshWizard** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:54 am

anyone know if any british players turn out any good. I'm play with Cardiff in the 1.3 lidas db so any skill is good

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:20 am

Not that i've ever noticed. Although the Belfast Giant player (David Phillips) could be made better. He's been invited to the Chicago Blackhawks evaluation camp or something.

watts555 · Post by **watts555** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:54 am

Just wanted to know, with Lidas 1.3 Rosters, should I leave Svensson-Paajarvi and Hedman overseas, or should I sign them and let them play for my farm team?

alexob18 · Post by **alexob18** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:05 pm

If you let them play in Europe, you can wait until you have to sign them and not waste their ELC years that are quite useful to a team. It depends on how they are playing and how you think they are developing. I let MPS stay over when I drafted him and he did well, and I let Hedman come to the AHL. They both developed quite well, so I guess you can't really go wrong.

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