ESPN TBL Fantasy Hockey 2009/10

kuulapaa · Post by **kuulapaa** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:24 pm

Manimal wrote:Apparently it's available in Custom Hockey leagues, too! http://games.espn.go.com/fhl/content?pa ... custom2010

There it is in our league's settings:
Allow Draft Pick Trading - No

Is it possible to change settings? And do we want it?

Post by **batdad** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:28 pm

If we can change it, I see no reason not to. If it is available to us, it would eliminate the concerns we have about pick trading, because the system would handle those issues.

Now..the question would be..does it cost?

Post by **B. Stinson** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:36 pm

McQwak wrote:
B. Stinson wrote:I would love to see draft pick trading, so it's currently issue #1 for this off-season.
Just for info: fantasy baseball allows trading picks. So ESPN knows how to do it...

Manimal wrote: Apparently it's available in Custom Hockey leagues, too! http://games.espn.go.com/fhl/content?pa ... custom2010

This is an awesome catch by both of you! I don't recall ever seeing this setting, but there it is.

It's currently locked, though, so we won't be able to enable it until our draft settings are available again - which I would assume will sometime before next season.

batdad wrote:You can change your keepers whenever you want. I have put them on and off and changed them 20 times this season. It is a non issue as to when you set your keepers. I could still change my mind on the last day without any issue.

This is correct. Keeper selections won't be made official until the keeper deadline in September.

Lastly, I'm not so sure I follow the good players argument. Simply due to the nature of a keeper league, a theoretical even distribution of the best 84 players (6 keepers x 14 teams) should be locked on our teams, and thus not available at the draft. If a team is lacking any keeper-worthy players at a position, then that means someone else must have those players as extras. In which case, they will have to let them go for the draft. Or vice versus: if a team has extra keeper-worthy players at a position, then someone else is probably missing those players.

Either way, those good extra players are available to everyone in some fashion - whether we distribute the talent now via an off-season trade, or we wait for those players to be released into the draft pool. No matter what, no one is allowed to keep more than anyone else, so the talent should end up being distributed in the end.

Post by **B. Stinson** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:45 pm

2010 Minstrel Hockey League Fantasy Draft

1. Danny
2. McQwak
3. Ciryatan
4. Philadelphia FHC
5. Boston Irish
6. Phaneuf Is Enough
7. Chilliwack Marauders
8. Vasteras Vikings
9. Lake Alajarvi Bald Uakaris
10. Karlstad Killers
11. Corinthians Red Army
12. The Mustangs
13. Burnaby Black Ice
14. Marsac's Newbies

And here's the formula I used for the draft order:

1. Promotion League Champion
2. Promotion League Runner-up
3. Promotion League Third place
4. Relegation League Third place
5. Relegation League Second place
6. Relegation League First place
7. Round 1 loser, 4th best seed
8. Round 1 loser, 3rd best seed
9. Round 1 loser, 2nd best seed
10. Round 1 loser, best seed
11. Round 2 loser, lower seed
12. Round 2 loser, higher seed
13. Minstrel Memorial Cup runner-up
14. Minstrel Memorial Cup Champion

Post by **batdad** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:58 pm

The above looks perfect Stinson. Pretty much what I expected for the draft order,

And your posts on trades is EXACTLY what I have been trying to say. We all have 6 keepers, no matter what. Period. Same number of guys from every position released to draft. Same opportunity to gain someone new, or lose someone for nothing.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:30 pm

Shouldn't the drafts order should be determined by Standings through the regular season. With the 2 finalists picking 13 and 14. Just like IRL...

Post by **B. Stinson** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:02 pm

TBLHL Awards Week Recap (After Day 3)

Day 1 - James Norris Memorial Trophy (best Plus/Minus) : Phaneuf Is Enough +94
Day 2 - Maurice Richard Trophy (most Goals) : Västerås Vikings 262 goals
Day 3 - Art Ross Trophy (most Goals + Assists) : The Mustangs 686 points (235 goals, 451 assists)
Day 4 - Vezina Trophy (best overall Goaltending) :
Day 5 - Calder Trophy (best rookie manager) :
Day 6 - Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy (most dedicated manager) :
Day 7 - Presidents' Trophy (best regular-season record) :
Day 8 - Minstrel Memorial Cup:
Day 8 - Teams relegated:
Day 8 - Teams promoted:

By the way, quick question: what do you guys think should be the criteria for the Calder? Currently, the rookie manager who finished highest in the regular season wins it. Do you guys think it would be better to include playoffs, too, and give it to the overall most successful manager?

Post by **Lidas** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:47 am

Batdad, sorry for not replying to your trade offer - I was off on a 5-day trip to Tokyo.
(but I wouldnt have accepted your offer anyway).

I actually have Hedman as a D keeper. Dunno if that's smart or not...

Post by **B. Stinson** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:32 am

TBLHL Awards Week Recap

Day 1 - James Norris Memorial Trophy (best Plus/Minus) : Phaneuf Is Enough +94
Day 2 - Maurice Richard Trophy (most Goals) : Västerås Vikings 262 goals
Day 3 - Art Ross Trophy (most Goals + Assists) : The Mustangs 686 points (235 goals, 451 assists)
Day 4 - Vezina Trophy (best overall Goaltending) : Västerås Vikings 2.25 avg. rank
Day 5 - Calder Trophy (best rookie manager) : Graham Black Ice Burnaby Black Ice
Day 6 - Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy (most dedicated manager) : Graham Black Ice Burnaby Black Ice
Day 7 - Presidents' Trophy (best regular-season record) : Burnaby Black Ice 20-2-0
Day 8 - Minstrel Memorial Cup: Marsac's Newbies Niclas Sundmark
Day 8 - Teams relegated: Chicago Sun Bears, Caerphilly Saints, Kent Mighty Turnips
Day 8 - Users promoted: Danny, McQwak, Ciryatan

So, that's it! The year is officially over!

Thanks to everyone for participating, and staying so active. Hopefully you'll all be back with your teams next year, when we'll see full NHL-size rosters of 23 players, in addition to a whole new league as tier 2 for TBLHL. Also don't forget, the keeper deadline will be sometime in mid-September. So don't forget to have a list together by then.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:55 am

Great year people! It's gone by so quick! Thanks for setting it up Stinson and make it more enjoyable with the Awards, Rules, etc...

Anybody want Martin St. Louis?

Post by **McQwak** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:49 am

Cearphilly Saints has changed to Prague Dead Parrots

Post by **B. Stinson** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:42 pm

Ha! I've always enjoyed that skit. Great reference!

Also, a quick note to our incoming managers:

There is a maximum of three(3) goalies allowed on our rosters. You are permitted to have four(4) if one is on IR.

Something went a little wacky with our settings when I implemented the acquisition limit earlier in the year, causing our goalie maximum to reset to 'None'. Despite this, we're still playing by the 3-goalie maximum, and any goalie over this limit will be removed without warning (again, unless you have one on IR).

eric1985 · Post by **eric1985** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:31 am

Im up for any trades. Send me an offer.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:17 pm

My roster has many needs. I'll entertain offers if anyone has any.

Post by **CatchUp** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:24 am

I'm also open to trade offers. I'd like to keep it simple, so keeper for keeper would be ideal. I'm looking to move Sedin for a rock solid (AKA hardware winning) keeper at either D or G. Jordan Staal is also a solid keeper if you need defensive stats.

Goalies I'd take include Luongo, Miller, Fleury, Nabokov, Lundqvist.

D I'm interested in: Green, Keith, Kaberle, Enstrom, Chara.

Open to other offers as well. Fire away.

Post by **McQwak** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:39 pm

Anyone has a spare D keeper? I don't want to keep any of mine

I can offer Zetterberg/Jokinen for such D man.

corinthian · Post by **corinthian** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:18 pm

Mcqwak :I have Erstrom, maybe we can come up with something since I like Zetterberg.
Since CatchUp likes Erstrom... I would like to get a better LW than Loui Eriksson.

kuulapaa · Post by **kuulapaa** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:52 am

As for defence I have Mark Streit available. My team needs especially a keeper RW. Anyone interested?

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:28 am

kuulapaa wrote:As for defence I have Mark Streit available. My team needs especially a keeper RW. Anyone interested?

I have St. Louis or Kessel... I'm after an upgrade of either Edler or Pitkanen as a Keeper D-man...

kuulapaa · Post by **kuulapaa** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:24 am

getzlaf15 wrote:
kuulapaa wrote:As for defence I have Mark Streit available. My team needs especially a keeper RW. Anyone interested?
I have St. Louis or Kessel... I'm after an upgrade of either Edler or Pitkanen as a Keeper D-man...

I sent you an offer.

eric1985 · Post by **eric1985** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:15 pm

It looks like Kesler is available for the right price ( pretty nuch as long as it upgrades one of my keepers). Also have James neal if anyone is interested.

Post by **CatchUp** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:10 am

Possible K's now available from Phaneuf is Enough:
Jack Johnson
Brian Rafalski
Jordan Staal
Mason Raymond
Kris Letang
Guillaume Latendresse

I'm looking for an upgrade in net. So one of Ward/Bryzgalov would be available with one of the the above players for a star goalie.

Post by **B. Stinson** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:59 am

I've finished "engraving" Marsac's entry on the Minstrel Memorial Cup.

News out of Philadelphia is that Brad Richards (C), and Dustin Penner (LW) are both for sale, with an eye on getting a keeper goalie and/or possibly a keeper defenseman.

eric1985 · Post by **eric1985** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:28 am

I only wish turco had value...

kuulapaa · Post by **kuulapaa** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:08 pm

Player status update:

Keepers -
C Toews OR Koivu
LW Ovechkin
RW ?
D Weber AND Ehrhoff
G Kiprusoff

Available -
C Gomez
LW/C Vermette
LW Rolston
RW Setoguchi
RW Gionta
D Streit
D Visnovsky
D Foster
G Mason
G Ellis

There have been some inquiries about Weber. He can be had if the deal brings a +60 point RW to Bald Uakaris.

P.S. Someone had invented a great way of putting his keepers dressed and all the others on bench. It was a plain and simple and ohh so beautiful way to see at a glance who's available in a team that I aped it immediately.