Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic

[cm_spitfire]

Roger, thanks

Using Lida 2.2 roster

My lines have been mixed up quite a bit given some injuries, but I'll post the "preferred" lines:

Sharp Toews Hossa
Versteeg Umberger Kane
Ladd Madden Brouwer
Eager Kopecky Burish

Keith Campbell
Seabrook Hjalmarsson
Jack Johnson Bergeron

I've experimented with letting the coach do the lines but it hasn't really worked that much. Coach Q lost his job unfortunately...! I've been playing at .500 mostly, and finished the season in 11th place. More goals against than for...

[axwel3221]

Roger, thanks

Using Lida 2.2 roster

My lines have been mixed up quite a bit given some injuries, but I'll post the "preferred" lines:

Sharp Toews Hossa
Versteeg Umberger Kane
Ladd Madden Brouwer
Eager Kopecky Burish

Keith Campbell
Seabrook Hjalmarsson
Jack Johnson Bergeron

I've experimented with letting the coach do the lines but it hasn't really worked that much. Coach Q lost his job unfortunately...! I've been playing at .500 mostly, and finished the season in 11th place. More goals against than for...

Defense looks good, I don't know what something wiser would say, but I'd say sell Seabrook for a better winger and Sharp sold to some other winger or a young creative center. Let me know who you drafted. And their potentials probably.

Or wait for free agency, also how's your salaries?

[cm_spitfire]

Well the draft, as well as free agency has mixed things up a bit. I traded my 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to NYR for their 1st and ended up being 1st overall, drafting Taylor Hall! I also drafted Kiril Kabanov in the 1st round. Anyway, I was able to add Dave Perron and Tomas Holmstrom who slot in on 2nd and 3rd lines respectively. Brouwer has gone to minors.

I recognise I could certainly do with a 1st line left wing; I may have some flexibility with Seabrook. I'm about 1m under the cap so not a great deal of room.

So any ideas on how I would tinker this tactic to suit me? I've never been overly patient with tactics and prefer just to have a "plug-and-play" tactic. Maybe I just need to become more patient and tinker!!

[Wroom]

Well the draft, as well as free agency has mixed things up a bit. I traded my 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to NYR for their 1st and ended up being 1st overall, drafting Taylor Hall! I also drafted Kiril Kabanov in the 1st round. Anyway, I was able to add Dave Perron and Tomas Holmstrom who slot in on 2nd and 3rd lines respectively. Brouwer has gone to minors.

I recognise I could certainly do with a 1st line left wing; I may have some flexibility with Seabrook. I'm about 1m under the cap so not a great deal of room.

So any ideas on how I would tinker this tactic to suit me? I've never been overly patient with tactics and prefer just to have a "plug-and-play" tactic. Maybe I just need to become more patient and tinker!!

Could you post your current team?

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[cm_spitfire]

I sure can Note that there has been a couple of changes since I last posted. The additions of Carter and Parise should help!

[Wroom]

I sure can Note that there has been a couple of changes since I last posted. The additions of Carter and Parise should help!

Ok. I actually made a file to look at the players and stuff.

I don't know how much your D's have improved, but there's a lack of skill there.

I would play it like this:

Keith - Campbell
Bergeron - Hjalmarsson
Johnson - (?) Is that Pepin guy good?


Offensive:

Ladd - Carter - Hossa
Parise - Toews - Holmström
Versteeg - Madden - Kane
Perron - (Trade Kopecky) - Ortmeyer

Don't know who's the better winger. Ladd is better than Parise here(at the beginning) and Versteeg has a small edge on Perron. Kopecky just ain't good enough. I've got Fraser here.

I haven't tried playing it yet, got to get under the cap.

Though, I haven't Parise or Carter here. Tried trading to those you had in the last one. So Sharp, Umberger, Eager, Seabrook and Fraser is in for me. Going to try trading to get under the cap.

Surprised that you traded away people like Barker and Bolland.

[cm_spitfire]

Ok, thanks, interested to see how you go. I've been swapping Kopecky and Fraser around and admittedly, I'm probably getting more out of Fraser.

Any reason why you'd have Holmstrom above Kane? Is it because of the need for a playmaker on each line? Versteeg and Perron are quite evenly matched. I've actually just swapped those two around and am getting similar results in regards to performance. Perron has more points because he has been on the better line.

Had to move Barker (and Sopel) at the beginning to get under the cap. It was how I managed to get one of my 1st round picks last draft. I traded Bolland when I was pushing for the cup. Wanted a similar player who was older so I picked up Umberger. As it turned out, he was very useful in helping me attain Carter!

[Wroom]

Any reason why you'd have Holmstrom above Kane? Is it because of the need for a playmaker on each line? Versteeg and Perron are quite evenly matched. I've actually just swapped those two around and am getting similar results in regards to performance. Perron has more points because he has been on the better line.

Well, early in the game. Kane is young. And, Holmström actually have better technical skills. That gives you two defensive forwards with offensive upside and a big man on the second line. It's also a little dependable of how much Kane has gained and how much Holmström has declined.

You get an old but skilled veteran playmaker with two young wingers on the third to have a solid line with energy and shutting down other teams if needed.

That first line should be able to score a lot.

[cm_spitfire]

Ok, yeah, I can understand that.

Hossa is scoring like a man possessed. He didn't win the Art Ross or Rocket Richard trophy last season but he came very close. I think he clocked in 106 points?

[Wroom]

Ok, thanks, interested to see how you go.

10 games in. 6-4-0. 41-39 in goal difference.

Played two exhibitions before the season, went 2-1-0, 15-7 there.

Unstable at the moment.

Brian Campbell scored 4 goals in one game, winning 7-5, and shots 55-32.

To going -5 in the next in a mental breakdown game vs. Dallas, losing 2-7 and shots 32-63(!).

Brian Campbell has 6+1 and -4 in 10 games.
Duncan Keith got 0+8 and -4 in 10 games.
Toews with 17 points, Hossa with 14.

My 4th line clearly struggling. With -3, -6, -4.

[cm_spitfire]

Unstable and unpredictable! Exactly what I was getting! My first 10 of the 2nd season was something like 2-6-2! Both of the wins were on the road too. It took me another 3 or 4 games at home before I won there!

63 shots against in a game is just nuts!

Any stats on your PP/PK percentages? Noticed that you're taking way to many penalties and not scoring on enough PPs??

[Wroom]

Finished the season with an 46-31-5 record, 321-292 - 16,2%PP/81,2%PK

That gave med 6th. place, scoring most goals in the league. letting in second most goals in the league.
11th in PP, last in PK.

Hossa became the Point scoring winner with 123 points.

There are some good things and bad things. Offensive it's good, defensive it's horrible. But, I had something like this with Detroit too in the first seasons.

It kind of grows on you, this tactic. Just have to find the right tweaks.

[Wroom]

I've just won the fricking Stanley Cup with them!



I switched to matching lines in the playoffs. Playing 1vs3 or 1vs2 on the road and 1vs1/1vs3 at home.



I came in as 6th seed, and knocked out 3rd seed Anaheim Ducks in the first round. 4-2

A Ducks 3-4ot
A Ducks 2-0
H Ducks 4-1
H Ducks 2-4
A Ducks 8-4
H Ducks 3-2ot

Then I knocked out 4th seed Calgary Flames with 4-3 in the second round, after OT in GAME 7!

A Flames 4-3ot
A Flames 1-2
H Flames 0-3
H Flames 6-1
B Flames 4-2
H Flames 2-3ot
B Flames 3-2ot

In the Western Conference finals, I knocked out 8th Phoenix Coyotes with 4-3.

H Coyotes 3-6
H Coyotes 4-2
A Coyotes 1-2ot
A Coyotes 4-3ot
H Coyotes 3-4
A Coyotes 5-4ot
H Coyotes 3-2

And in the Finals I beat 3rd seed from the East, Boston Bruins with 4-1.

H Bruins 3-4ot
H Bruins 5-3
A Bruins 4-3
A Bruins 4-3
H Bruins 3-2ot



Hossa only played 15 games, and Ladd finally showed some class. Toews was the best man though. Scoring 36 points.

[cm_spitfire]

*clap clap clap* well done!! I've begun tweaking it myself albeit that I've now got totally different players. About to start my 4th season. Last season I had a lot more success by applying the changes that mascarone (?) mentioned. I was certainly more successful than in previous seasons, finishing 6th but still getting wiped in 4 by the Ducks in the 1st Round.

Still, there were some deficincies in my team (goaltending) so it might have just been down to that. I'll continue to tweak it until I find it working the best way for me!

Thanks wroom.

[axwel3221]

Last season I had a lot more success by applying the changes that mascarone (?) mentioned

I guess if you mean trades it was me.

[cm_spitfire]

Haha no buddy, but I certainly move Seabrook and Sharp as you suggested! The other guy suggested leaving everyone at pass rather than shoot and something else too that I can't remember......anyways, it sort of worked but it's all going downhill again now. I'm sitting in 5th in the conf but I think I'm getting away purely on the brilliance of my players, not the tactic! As it stands, I still have more goals against than for and will win one game 4-2 away and then get flogged 7-1 at home. Strange....

[marecone]

Haha no buddy, but I certainly move Seabrook and Sharp as you suggested! The other guy suggested leaving everyone at pass rather than shoot and something else too that I can't remember......anyways, it sort of worked but it's all going downhill again now. I'm sitting in 5th in the conf but I think I'm getting away purely on the brilliance of my players, not the tactic! As it stands, I still have more goals against than for and will win one game 4-2 away and then get flogged 7-1 at home. Strange....

It was me. What I do is load this tactic. Set all wingers and centers to carry puck, join rush and pass. I don't touch defenders. Did try few times to do it like it is said in original but had much weaker results. Up until 2011/2012 I won 2 EBEL cups, 1 Continental cup, 2 AHL cups and World Championship Division 1.
My forwards are all utility, offensive or skilled offensive as I tend to buy such players. Perhaps that makes the difference.
As I said before when losing I reshuffle lines in such a way that worse rated players go to 4th line. Then set use 2 or 3 lines only. And as for lines, I always sign a great coach who does it for me.
BTW, last season with Manitoba Moose I got a record with 295 scored goals in a season.

[Mordrehl]

Does anyone have an opinion on whether using this tactic effects player developement?

I've been trying to run some ''experiments'' to see if team, unit or personal tactics have any effect on a players growth

[axwel3221]

Does anyone have an opinion on whether using this tactic effects player developement?

I've been trying to run some ''experiments'' to see if team, unit or personal tactics have any effect on a players growth

Checking Defensive Forward changed to a Goal-Scoring Defensive Forward. Goal-Scoring Defensive Forward sounds like the best player ever.

[stone169]

I'm using Lidas' 2.2 rosters and tweak the tactics a bit. Finished my first season with a record of 55-24-3, 2nd overall. My PP was ranked 1st and Milan Michalek scored 58 goals, while Jason Spezza won the scoring title with a 118 points.

I won the Stanley Cup in my first year, finishing with a record of 16-1-1. Spezza picked up 31 points during the run to win the Conn Smythe. The most interesting stat was Pascal Leclaire who finished with a 1.86 GAA and save% of 0.933 while in the regular season his GAA 2.90 with a save% of 0.894.

My second season is going even better, despite the slow start at the beginning. The team is still challenging for 1st overall, with Milan Michalek leading the way with 62 goals and 121 points. A reall surprising stat though in my second season is Chris Neil. Neil has 34 goals and 71 points thanks to these tactics. In all honesty, I really don't see a problem defending my Stanley Cup.

One question I do have is about goaltending. It's been horrible. It wasn't great in my first season, but it was great in the playoffs and it's even worse in my second season with Leclaire losing the starting role to Elliott. Is there any way to improve that stat?



My 4th line is actually supposed to be Fritsche - Yelle - Stefanishion, but Yelle is currently out for a month.

[cm_spitfire]

What part of the tactics did you alter??

Afraid I can't answer your goaltending question - I have equally bad numbers. The tactic seems to strike as a bit of a "score more than them" style. That being said though, I've never had a totally strong goalie but I wouldn't exactly put Leclaire in the same calibre as Miller/Luongo/Fleury etc either. Maybe thats the issue?

[stone169]

What part of the tactics did you alter??

Afraid I can't answer your goaltending question - I have equally bad numbers. The tactic seems to strike as a bit of a "score more than them" style. That being said though, I've never had a totally strong goalie but I wouldn't exactly put Leclaire in the same calibre as Miller/Luongo/Fleury etc either. Maybe thats the issue?

The only thing I altered was I turned down the aggression and the hitting one notch because I was taking too many penalties. Surprisingly though, with this tactic, I put Chris Neil on the 2nd powerplay unit to stand in front of the net because of his size, strength, and he had a good deflection rating and he finished off the season with 42 goals and averaged nearly a point a game and he still managed to lead the team in fights.

I think I'm going to work on another tactic and use this one to come back in the 3rd period if I'm ever down by a few goals.

[cm_spitfire]

I've come back to using this tactic for the previous season with marecone's changes. Worked extremly well throughout the season. Hossa had 68 goals and 144 points, Carter had 98 assists and 140 points! Goaltending was ok, but still around 3.28GAA. Unfortunately, it started to bum out about 15 games from the end of the season but I was still able to finish in 3rd. Then I got knocked out in the first round of the playoffs. I was fuming! I did a little of this: , some of this and ended up trading a bunch of players for the start of the next season. I'm going to let my coach do everything but he can use the tactic and we'll see happens. Getting tired of not winning a Cup!

[stone169]

I won the Cup in my first year using these tactics. Totally dominated in the playoffs. Second season I lost to the hated Maple Leafs in the Conference final. I had a couple of key injuries. That's my excuse.

[axwel3221]

I've come back to using this tactic for the previous season with marecone's changes. Worked extremly well throughout the season. Hossa had 68 goals and 144 points, Carter had 98 assists and 140 points! Goaltending was ok, but still around 3.28GAA. Unfortunately, it started to bum out about 15 games from the end of the season but I was still able to finish in 3rd. Then I got knocked out in the first round of the playoffs. I was fuming! I did a little of this: , some of this and ended up trading a bunch of players for the start of the next season. I'm going to let my coach do everything but he can use the tactic and we'll see happens. Getting tired of not winning a Cup!

Hey, your first round pick in 2007. He was? Developing?