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Cobra84 Good to see another active GM join in on the Challenge, as you can see from my messages I do a lot of trading with my team too :-D We'll continue to post your stats to compare with other people if you'd like but we can't allow you to factor into the overall points race since you've traded 2007 picks. :doh:

Please read the "#2: Challenge Setup & Gameplay" Announce thread; as you will see:
IN-SEASON GAME PLAY RULES:

2. You can make any player moves you see fit but you can only trade draft picks from the upcoming draft.
It is up to you if you'd like to start over so that you can figure into the official scoring and then be able to bring your team into a second season in the Challenge. If you restart though please post a screenshot of both your 'transactions' page and your 'trades' page along with your first two sets of recorded stats so we can double check that your restarted team has kept in line with this rule.

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Well after 20 games my team is doing a lot better than I expected. The $29 million player budget is a huge challenge, which is the point of all this right? 8-)

After the first 20 games my team is 11-8-1 for 23 points, and are 6th in the Eastern Conference. I've been trying to lower payroll and rebuild the team, and so far I've been able to do that pretty well. The trades I've made so far are:
-Erik Cole, Rights to ben O'Brien, Carolina's 3rd Round Pick in 2006, Carolina's 4th Round Pick in 2006 to Montreal for Rights to Kyle Chipchura and Montreal's 1st Round Pick in 2006
-Frantisek Kaberle to Toronto for Matt Stajan :joy:
-Glen Wesley to Phoenix for David LeNeveu and Matt Spiller
-Bret Hedican to San Jose for San Jose's 2nd Round Pick in 2006
-Mike Commodore and Mike Zigomanis to Anaheim for Kip Brennan

I also signed Jason Doig and Brad Brown, as well as a ton of uninteresting signings. Doig has been excellent, and has the highest Avg Rating of all the skaters with 7.57. Brown is playing on my top D-Man Pairing and has the highest +/- on the Canes with a +10. So I've been pretty happy with those 2 for sure. :thup:

Radim Vrbata has also exceeded expectations with 18 points in 20 games. :nod:
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Minstrel wrote:Cobra84 Good to see another active GM join in on the Challenge, as you can see from my messages I do a lot of trading with my team too :-D We'll continue to post your stats to compare with other people if you'd like but we can't allow you to factor into the overall points race since you've traded 2007 picks. :doh:

Please read the "#2: Challenge Setup & Gameplay" Announce thread; as you will see:
IN-SEASON GAME PLAY RULES:

2. You can make any player moves you see fit but you can only trade draft picks from the upcoming draft.
It is up to you if you'd like to start over so that you can figure into the official scoring and then be able to bring your team into a second season in the Challenge. It seems as though there may be other things you've missed since this rule is so clearly laid out in the Anoucne thread as well as the sentance in the middle of the 'Challenge News' box atop this forum says "You can ONLY trade draft picks from the upcoming draft and must stay within 1 million (US) of the Board's assigned budget."

So, if you restart that's why we'll need you to please post a screenshot of both your 'transactions' page and your 'trades' page along with your first two sets of recorded stats so we can double check that your restarted team has kept in line with this rule. We may ask for other screens as well if we need to as we are giving you a second chance.

If you have any problems/questions about this feel free to message me directly, just click the 'PM' button underneath this post.
oups, I've forgot this point. Ok I will try again. I apologize for my mistake :oops:

EDIT: It's okay but I would suggest you re-read all the Announce threads to make sure you haven't missed anything else so you won't have to restart again. It seems as though there may be other things you've missed since this rule is so clearly laid out in the Announce thread as well as the sentance in the middle of the 'Challenge News' box atop this forum that says "You can ONLY trade draft picks from the upcoming draft and must stay within 1 million (US) of the Board's assigned budget."

So, if you restart that's why we'll need you to please post a screenshot of both your 'transactions' page and your 'trades' page along with your first two sets of recorded stats so we can double check that your restarted team has kept in line with this rule. We may ask for other screens as well if we need to as we are giving you a second chance.

Good luck! -Minstrel
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My game has become such a darn saga since the last portion I posted it's unreal :roll: so I keep putting off posting about it because it's got me so :rant: :bs: but I will bite the bullet soon and record my final stats and update my team's story. :doh: I'm up to preseaon of 2.2 now but from around game 70+ until now has been a whirlwind rollercoaster ride. I actually gave up and worked on my graphics projects for a while I was so frustrated with my game... :mambo:
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Just to let everyone know, as there are only a handful or so of people not past the 60 game mark representing our next in-season bonus session you will have the next two weekends to get your team through game 60 and qualify for bonus points. We'll tally them on lucky Monday the 13th :cry:
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I'll try to finish the season during this weekend, though I'm not sure if I can squeeze it in considering that it's my lady's birthday then and she'll want to do something special to celebrate it.
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Have entered all of the stats that are currently in the recording thread, one query has come up that hasn't been sorted yet:
al_money - Your total points and wins/so lossed don't add up, I have entered what I think is correct however if there is a problem you need to tell us. Also you haven't stated what your board budget is, currently you are down for 2 penalty points. Please could you tell us what the budget is and we will rectify this if necessary
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Borlag, you have next week and next weekend too 8-) And that's just four the second in-season bonus points; where you only need to have 41-60 recorded.

To restate, people have this weekend, and next to have reported their games 41-60 set or they won't qualify for our second set of in-season bonus points (like we last did after everyone finished game 20). Obviously it would be great to have people finish as soon as they can but the deadlines when we make them are just for the overall points that deermine who takes 1st, 2nd and 3rd and gets entered into the TBL Hall of Fame. For "I just want to see how I matched up statisticallly" recording there really isn't a time limit.
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I never can sleep :nosleep: which is why you always see me post in the middle of the night :cry: but it's nearly impossible after a big night of shows since we go from stage to celebrating a good show in the neighborhood bar... then I get home at like 3am and feel like it's noon. :dunno:

So I may as well stop dragging my feet and update my Canes...

When we last left the team had just undergone major changes and had bounced back from a four win second section. Section three showed that we were back on the right track at least with a 12-6-2 record, posting our best stretch yet clawing our way back to 11th which is actually only 5 points out of 3rd as we'd then overtake Florida for 1st place in the conference. The team was really clicking and posted a lot of 5-2 wins. The PP bounced back but the PK kept sliding; at least we were able stay even in goals for and against at 75. Balastik still led the team a few points from the 30 goal 60 point mark and won his second Rookie of the Month honors this time for January (he'd won October too and would go on to win March as well!). :thup:

Things were going great rolling into the Olympic break. The Canes sent quite a contingent to Torino. Czech Republic selected Josef Vasicek, Finland selected Sami Kapanen, Russia selected Lowell backup 'tender Ilya Bryzgalov, the Swiss then took Lowell star Martin Gerber (who I really only kept as he resigned to a 2-way deal) and USA selected Eric Cole.

Vas put in a solid if unspectacular effort for the Czechs. Kapanen played to a solid 7.22 average rating with Finland. Bryz played all seven games for Russian and did well posting a 7.43 average rating and a 2.53 GAA. Gerber got in two games but unfortuantely didn't play well at all. Cole was fantastic with six goals in eight games leading the US to the Silver Medal :usa: :2nd:

Our first game back as well as the first game of the 60-82 set ended up reflecting our whole season as we scored five goals but Buffalo threw a snowman at us still winning by three goals :-x bringing us two days later into a matchup with Ottawa and it was even worse than I feared as they soundly thrashed us by six goals 1-7 :furious: There was a closed door meeting where GM Minty challenged the team to get their heads out of Torino and/or their asses and play some hockey so we could have a good playoff push. :rant:




Things looked like they were turning around for us up 4-1 on the Wings at he 42 minute mark but we watched it slip away again as they scored the leveler with just over a minute to go, leading to a shootout loss. :doh: Two more games pass with no points for the Canes. I'm looking at the schedule and shaking my head, popping Tylenol and TUMS like they are candies. After this Washington game it's Colorado then back to back with Ottawa, then with conference leaders Florida, then to the east coast for NJ, and a Philly game bookended by two games with that darn Buffalo team that threw us around 5-8. :headache:

Again 46 minutes into the Washington game, we score our 5th to go ahead 5-3 but can't hold that lead. Looks like a nother shootout until with just 13 seconds left in OT Balls fires one home and we take the 6-5 OT win. That doesn't change the upcoming schedule but the confidence is back with the boys and oddly enough we win the Colorado game and BOTH Ottawa games all by the same 4-2 score =D> This makes the Florida game huge as we could pull to within 2 points of the conference lead. And... they pretty much dismantle us 2-5.

We need big points on the upcoming nightmarish East Coast clash and we claw our way to a 4-3 ot win over the Devils to start it out. Then there's freakin Buffalo again and we eventually lose a 5-6 game there after a shootout. We beat Philly in a great 3-1 win so at least we are getting our points, now we just need to beat Buffalo.

We once again join Sherman and Mr. Peabody in the way-back machine and play that 80's hockey Buffalo seems to draw out of us for some reason. Again it is without any success, this time it's 4-7 instead of 5-8 :furious: and that left us pretty close to mathematically eliminated from post season play. The team ended spiralling to a 2-7 close to the season, firmly out of the playoffs. :cry:

At award time it was no surpise that Jaroslav Ballastik won the Calder Trophy with his 45g43a 88 point season. He was also named to the NHL Rookie All-Star team. He cited me as GM being the key reason he won the award :-D

Finishing just a point behind him with 41g46a for 87 points was Eric Cole who was voted Fan's Player of the Year.

Their centerman Eric Belanger finsihed the season 3rd in scroing on the team with 22g and 56a and was also rewarded as the runner-up to the Selke Trophy! Needless to say the three will continue to make up our first line in 2006!

Andy Delmore had a helluva impressive season at D with 20g32a; fourth in scoring on the team.

Here's how the team stats and year end standings came out.

On to better times, the impressive finish for Lowell in the AHL:

I'd virtually stolen Phaneuf as he was only being regarded as a 3* player at the time due to a separated shoulder that had him out four months. I gave up Chris Kunitz, Jim Vandermeer and a 3rd rounder 8-) He came back in time for some NHL games and then I sent him to finish the last eight games with Lowell to get his form back before they entered their playoffs. For extra experience Niitty went to Lowell at year's end playing their last two games as well (though Gerber had since tallied a 1.74 GAA in 38 games...). Lowell pretty much sailed through to a Calder Cup win losing only three games during their championship run. Here's a rundown of the impact players:

I'd traded the rights to Ryan Bayda and a 6th rounder for Daniel Widing who I signed as a FA in my Washington game and played rediculously well in the AHL. He finished his season in time to join Lowell for their last two rounds and again was rediculous, playing nine games and scoring in the last eight straight for 9g 5a in just 9 games!

Niitty was amazing in the AHL playoffs posting a 7.84 avg rating from his 1.50 gaa, .939 sv% effort. Phaneuf had 13 points posting a 7.73 avg rating. Three other players who had impressed all year at Lowell were Matt Keith posting 11 points in 18 games following a 31g21a 62 game season, Antoine Vermette with 15 pts in 20 games coming off a 18g30a 68 game season and Joe Corvo with 7g6a on D during the playoffs and a 17g29a season of 68 games.

Equally impressive, in their own way, were the Lowell 'Box Brigade: the Darcy's, Verot and Hordichuk, George Davis and Gordie Dwyer. Hordichuk posted 259 PIM in just 56 games and Gordie Dwyer posted 112 PIM in just 25 games! The playoffs didn't slow down the Darcy's either posting 68 and 57 PIM. Regular season plus playoffs Darcy Verot put up an eye popping 418 PIM and Darcy Hordichuk put up 316 PIM!

I have slashed and burned to kept payroll low and it's around 24.5 mil now so if I get a few million increase from the board to 31 or so I hope to sign a second line scorer, a defensive anchor (hopefully Kubina) and a solid 3/4 D man (like Vaananen) in Free Agency. I'll probably trade for a 2nd and third line center in the offseason too. I'm not inteding to keep Yelle and both Stillman and Kapanen are "on the bubble". I wil most likely resign then trade Boucher and play Niitty with Bryz as backup.

Hopefully next year will find us battling for the Cup not golfing in June!!
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I've finished games 21-40 and the team has slipped a bit posting a 9-8-3 record in these games. This is mostly due to injuries. Brown, Staal, Tverdovsky, Boulerice, Wallin, Williams, K. Adams, Brind'Amour and Vasicek all missed games with injuries. ](*,)

I haven't made any trades since the first 20, and will probably wait till the deadline. Brad Brown and Jason Doig continue to impress me. Brown is +12, and Jason Doig has 16 points in 26 games, as well as a +10 rating. Eric Staal may not score very often, but he definitely racks up the assists. 5 goals and 31 assists for 36 points in 39 games. I also have 5 players around a point/game. =D>
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Minstrel wrote:Just to let everyone know, as there are only a handful or so of people not past the 60 game mark representing our next in-season bonus session you will have the next two weekends to get your team through game 60 and qualify for bonus points. We'll tally them on lucky Monday the 13th :cry:

Oh snap.... I better get going.
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Not much to say in this quarter. Jagr became unhappy because he thought the refs were unfairly targetting him (and I agreed with him, the NHL didn't.) This caused his production to slowwwwwwwwwwwww right on down, I think he went 5 games without a goal, which is a record for him this year. Hes still leading the league in Goals, Points and +/-, but now theres a few guys right on his tail.

Without Jagr scoring, the whole team slowed down, especially the PP. Moral rates were all over the place and I couldn't wait for the olympic break so I could re-group as it were.

Nordgren continued his very good play, dispite playing on a really weak 2nd line, hes manged to get 23 points in 28 games. I don't know what I'm gonna do with Williams, he seems to have alot of potential, but I nothing I do with him seems to work. If I could, I would put him on the AHL team, but that would require him clearing waivers.

Noronen was very shaky this quarter, and I think one of the reasons why the team didn't play so well. He would go out there with an 8 rating one night, then the next 3 nights it would be something like 5-6-4. I put Gerber in with some mixed succsess, he didn't seem very reliable.

Things started looking up during the olympic break, I had 2 and a half weeks to whip my guys into shape, I don't think they'll be able to look at a treadmill the same way again.

Oddly enough, my in-game trade deadline was alot like the real life one. Everyone wanted defense, and the prices weren't cheap. I dumped Ward off to the Sabres for a 4th round pick and pried Cory Sarich off of the Lightning for a 1st round pick and a good prospect. I was also planning on moving Hedican, and I had a deal good deal lined up with the Canadians for a 2nd round pick and Perezhogin, but I figured it would be too costly to replace him, and even with his giant contract hes doing more good then hurt.


My 60th game was the first game back from the break, where we beat Buffalo quite handidly and Sarich got an assist. :joy:
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Bonus Points B; which are based upon stats posted along with the Games 41-60 set will be calculated in the next few days. So if you haven't recorded that set at that time you'll miss out.

We will also soon be declaring a points cutoff date so we can tabulate the season-end bonuses as well. We will alwyas record people's stats so they can see how they did in their categories, wins, points etc. but the deadlines are for the overall points that qualify you to be declared one of the three winners. And of course become enshrined into the TBL Hall of Fame =D>

We just don't want people to have to wait for too long after recordign their last stats to see how the final points came out. :thup:
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Check over at GLR for our second set of in-season bonus points which Calv has totaled up for us.

Current Standings:

E5150_ca :1st:
Minstrel: :2nd:
Borlag: :3rd:

Now for the big points that will settle this thing... the season points! Who will come out on top?? Most people are near finished so I'm going to give people through Wednesday April 12 to compelete and record their seasons and playoffs in order to qualify for the final points. That gives you three weekends.

Those of you who have finished 2.1 I encourage you if you haven't yet to look into taking your Carolina team into a second season with Challenge 2.2. :thup:
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:1st: :party: Still number one 8-)
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Unless you don't finish your game by the 12th 8-) 'Cause I already done. :joy: :1st:
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Some people get all the freaking luck. :blue:

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Stats and stuff later.
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Seems you had other issues that Cole missing your last game of the year though if the next day you were beaten right? 8-) Looking forward to hearing how things went though =D>
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Well I mentioned earlier that Jagr was upset with the refs. Well he was right!


How the heck can the NHL suspend my star player TWICE IN THE SAME SERIES. :rant: :rant:
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Conspiracy!
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Did he come to you afterwords and get all in your face with a "so it's all im my head right?!?! Yeah... I'm the crazy one huh!??! I told you they were out to get me! Maybe my next GM will actually believe me when I say something." :rant:

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Minstrel wrote:Did he come to you afterwords and get all in your face with a "so it's all im my head right?!?! Yeah... I'm the crazy one huh!??! I told you they were out to get me! Maybe my next GM will actually believe me when I say something." :rant:

:-D

No.... but he shuld have :cry:

Final Regular season write-up:

High points:
Line of Cole - Drury Jagr combineing for over 350 points
Nordgrens 45 points in 50 games after being called up from the AHL
Sarich getting 25 points in 23 games after accquiring him at the deadline.
The play of Hedican and Wesley, while not amazing, they played well and brought alot of leadership to the team
Manageing to dump old over-paid farts for youngin's and draft picks
Kuba getting ~60 points

Neutral:
Nornonen
Gerber
Cairns

Low Points:
Eric Staal in general.
Justin Williams in general.
Anyone that has a last name that starts with a V
Anyone that has the last name Adams
Anyone who played on my 3rd or 4th line
Any defenseman not already mentioned.



Playoffs:

Round one vs Panthers

You know how in the movies, the team that always thinks they are going to roll over the team gets over-confident adn ends up blowing it?

Well that didn't happen here. We flattened Flordia in 4 games.

Round two: vs Flyers

We split the games at home, then went on too lose both games in Philly. Knowing it was do or die time, I didn't let my players leave the pracctice arena. Everyone was on everything intensive practice schedule for the rest of series and we managed an upset- come from behind crazy victory.

Round three: vs Devils

I knew going into this series, we were going to have some problems. What I didn't know, was that THE LEAGUE WAS HORRIBLY BIASED AGAINST ME AND WOULD DO EVERYHTING IN THERE POWER TO MAKE SURE I LOSE.

Game 1: Carolina lost in which appeared to be an evenly offciated gae. What the league was doing was lureing me into a false sense of security.

Game 2: 10 seconds into overtime...Jagr gets a 5 minute major for 'kneeing' and a game misconduct, the Devils go on to score on the PP. It seems nobody but me and Jagr noticed that Gary Bettman had come down from the pressbox to have a conference with the offcials. :rant:

Game 3: Jagr is suspended so Staal is brought up to take his place. This game goes to Overtime as well, with Erik Cole potting the winner 17 minutes in. Staal had 2 points, a goal and an assist on the GWG

Game 4: Jagr makes his return and Staal plays centre on the 2nd line. Midway through the 2nd period, I see Gary Bettman leaning over the glass behind the Devils bench and whispeing in the coach's ear. Not 3 minutes later, Gomez dives headfirst and Jagr knees, resulting in another game misconduct in Jagr for 'kneeing'.

10 minutes left in the game...Carolina is up 4-3... Devils call a time out. I tell Jagr to tail Bettman and he reports back that Bettman used an access tunnel connecting the pressbox to the time keepers area, and had a conference with the offcials. In the next 10 minutes Carolina is handed out 3 penalties, and Devils manage to tie it up.

12 Minutes into Overtime... Jagr reports that Bettman has gone up into the rafter's and is slowly desending on a rope, untill hes just above ice level, yelling at the refs about something. Somehow, only Jagr and I notice this. 30 seconds later, Staal is handed a penalty, and the Devils score on the PP to win Game 4.

Game 5: Jagr is suspended again, and someone messed with Cole's skates before practice, causeing him to fall into the boards akwardly and injure his knee. I knew this was the end, but I desperatly wanted to prove Bettman's cheayting ways. Somehow or another, Bettman has assigned himself to referee Game 5, but for some reason, only Jagr and I could reconize him. Devils manged to score 2 PP goals in this game, thanks to the unfair offciating, and won once again in overtime to take the series 4-1.

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Sounds like Gary Bettman loves you :-D
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I can't believe that happened in your game too!!!! I think Bettman is having second thoughts about expansion and is dead-set to keep Carolina from winning. In my game I thought I was just seeing things when Bettman took to the ice, not even bothering to wear a helmet to conceal himself and setting illegal picks against my Season Two players in OT! (since my first season I didn't even make the playoffs... again I blame Bettman). At least I know now I wasn't just hallucinating again, but I am more curious then ever how Bettman is cloaking himself from detection by the fans. I think it has to at least have something to do with the mind manipulation powers he's used to keep his job. :-x

Anyhow, I'm watching the LA/ANA game and making dinner so between the 2nd and 3rd I'm totalling stats and declaring the overall winners. I was waiting to hear from everyone who hasn't finished but I haven't gotten messages back yet so tonight is the night. The delay though will be addressed in 3.1 through the use of the set times for the Bonus Points I'll be setting. 8-)
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Okay folks, with scoring closed for Challenge 2.1 (but stats are still being recorded if you haven't finsihed and want to still to see where you match up statistically) and with consideration of the in-seasson bounus points, the season end bonus points and the playoff wins bonuses here's how the numbers sorted out. For point totals and the full stats/list check out our GLR page.

CHALLENGE 2.1 CAROLINA WINNERS!!!

:1st: E5150_ca, Patron Saint of Newbies :-D
:2nd: timmy_t
:3rd: Minstrel

You will see your forum profile trophies have been added. Welcome to the TBL Hall of Fame! =D>

I guess it's only fair to mention that Bruins72 was as close as possible to making 3rd; I ended with 40 total points and he had 39. Sorry amigo ;)

For those of you who haven't taken your team into a second season and recorded your 2.2 stats you only have until next Wed to get your first 20 games recorded before we tally the first set of bonus points and while they're not essential to win they pretty much decided third place in Challenge 2.1.
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