Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Looks interesting - I stumbled on to a somewhat similar but simpler tactic for EHM1 that I posted the other day, but I'll have to give this one a go - I like the aggression haha.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
It'll be interesting it hear how effective this tactic is now that version 1.4 introduces various changes to player stamina/conditioning:
In-Game Engine v83
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- Adjustments to energy and condition levels during game
- Scoring level adjustments
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- Adjustments to coach linechange AI and shift length calculations
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- Adjustments to player stamina drops when overused and the knock-on effects to performance
- Adjustments to player overusage effects in quick sim engine
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
I'm scared it didn't change anything at all ... currently doing tests and will be reporting to SI. It may affect the 12 players roster exploit ''more'', something I will test in the near future as well and also report my findings to SI.archibalduk wrote:It'll be interesting it hear how effective this tactic is now that version 1.4 introduces various changes to player stamina/conditioning:
In-Game Engine v83
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- Adjustments to energy and condition levels during game
- Scoring level adjustments
In-Game Engine v82
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- Adjustments to coach linechange AI and shift length calculations
In-Game Engine v81
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- Adjustments to player stamina drops when overused and the knock-on effects to performance
- Adjustments to player overusage effects in quick sim engine
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
It works fine still. No tiring the players as before. But i do not use it every game.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Yeah I'd agree - similar levels of success as before, thought I might have noticed a few more injuries but that could be affected by a few different things. Balancing complex weighted variables like this is a tough, tough job... especially when you need to consider beginners in your calculation.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Online League performance:
We've been keep an eye on how teams are performing and health levels throughout their roster. The players are a bit more tired after lengthy icetime after a game and if they play over 20+ mins for forwards their health is a bit lower than the players with less icetime. Since we are only in the first few weeks of a new season so it's too soon to tell. By the 2nd weeks we are seeing more light injs (few days) so this could be an effect of the new game logic. Will continue have track and see how icetime/health/injuries come into play throughout the season. Would love for others to contribute their findings.
Thanks Riz for his hardwork and dedication to the quality of the game!!!

We've been keep an eye on how teams are performing and health levels throughout their roster. The players are a bit more tired after lengthy icetime after a game and if they play over 20+ mins for forwards their health is a bit lower than the players with less icetime. Since we are only in the first few weeks of a new season so it's too soon to tell. By the 2nd weeks we are seeing more light injs (few days) so this could be an effect of the new game logic. Will continue have track and see how icetime/health/injuries come into play throughout the season. Would love for others to contribute their findings.
Thanks Riz for his hardwork and dedication to the quality of the game!!!






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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Hi
strange, I had some serious "issues" with this tactic after this update.
Just to make an example, I won ECHL, SPHL, 3 KHL and several international tournaments with this tactic, but, as far from my new NHL season, I score less, and also concede a lot, really a lot of goals (in 19 games, 8-9 for wins, and 59-64 for goals).
It seems my defense fail offen and the attack (I had a winger with 109 points last season, now he made 5 points in 19 games...) shots a lot but the puck rarely goes in.
Also with Sweden, the tactic seems far from reaching past "glory".
I don't know what to say, this tactic was not incredible as the past, but the last update seems to have altered the results
strange, I had some serious "issues" with this tactic after this update.
Just to make an example, I won ECHL, SPHL, 3 KHL and several international tournaments with this tactic, but, as far from my new NHL season, I score less, and also concede a lot, really a lot of goals (in 19 games, 8-9 for wins, and 59-64 for goals).
It seems my defense fail offen and the attack (I had a winger with 109 points last season, now he made 5 points in 19 games...) shots a lot but the puck rarely goes in.
Also with Sweden, the tactic seems far from reaching past "glory".

I don't know what to say, this tactic was not incredible as the past, but the last update seems to have altered the results

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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
You already got some help so that's good. Had to make a new account for some reason, haven't been on for a long time.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Maybe it helps to quote the right person...but yeah good thing you got some help. Hopefully it worked out for you.watts555 wrote:i tried to pm you, but it said you dont existWroom wrote:If it's not in the downloads section, send me an email here or on PM and I'll send the files to you.wildguy108 wrote:Could someone reupload the tactic? All of the links are down. Thanks!
Otherwise it should be here:
http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... =86&t=6895
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
I'm new to this game so I'll give it a shot with the Oilers. The potential to get scored on more is a concern, but with McDavid, it'd definitely be worth a try 

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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
You will probably see a lot of 6-3,5-3,6-4,3-6,4-5,4-6 type games depending on the rest of the roster.Draisaitl wrote:I'm new to this game so I'll give it a shot with the Oilers. The potential to get scored on more is a concern, but with McDavid, it'd definitely be worth a try
Gonna be interesting to see how it works with McDavid.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
I've used this tactic at most every level, with a wide variety of teams. And in almost every case, I will back this up, you should get used to conceding 3 - 4 goals a game. It's almost more worth it to have a stud goalie than try to build up your defense beyond Good, especially at the lower levels. Your forwards will be amongst the leading scorers, but your goalies will suffer for it.SirWroom wrote:You will probably see a lot of 6-3,5-3,6-4,3-6,4-5,4-6 type games depending on the rest of the roster.Draisaitl wrote:I'm new to this game so I'll give it a shot with the Oilers. The potential to get scored on more is a concern, but with McDavid, it'd definitely be worth a try
Gonna be interesting to see how it works with McDavid.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
It can happen sometimes. For me when it does, I try switching the lines a little bit, moving some wingers up and down the roster and alternative changing up the defense. Look at the plus/minus in your team statistics, believe it or not it's a usable indicator in this game.Corwin86 wrote:Hi
strange, I had some serious "issues" with this tactic after this update.
Just to make an example, I won ECHL, SPHL, 3 KHL and several international tournaments with this tactic, but, as far from my new NHL season, I score less, and also concede a lot, really a lot of goals (in 19 games, 8-9 for wins, and 59-64 for goals).
It seems my defense fail offen and the attack (I had a winger with 109 points last season, now he made 5 points in 19 games...) shots a lot but the puck rarely goes in.
Also with Sweden, the tactic seems far from reaching past "glory".![]()
I don't know what to say, this tactic was not incredible as the past, but the last update seems to have altered the results
Also look at who's scoring and who's not, for the most part one doesn't have to do something major. Also, try line-matching with either 1vs2 & 2vs1, alternatively 1vs3 & 3vs1.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
My first goal of the save when using this tactic: Acquire the best goaltender available 
I'm thinking with McDavid, it should be fun to watch this tactic - not as fun will be squirming at the goals this tactic will allow, but hey, I grew up in the 80's. Those scores were more the norm haha

I'm thinking with McDavid, it should be fun to watch this tactic - not as fun will be squirming at the goals this tactic will allow, but hey, I grew up in the 80's. Those scores were more the norm haha
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Many goals against but more the other way
Someone that have a fix for not allow so many goals against?

Someone that have a fix for not allow so many goals against?
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
I think the point of the tactic is to just shoot and shoot hence the name of the tactic. I'm sure you can tweak it but I think having an awesome goaltender is almost a must if you want to concede less goals
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
The better team the less goals against, especially on goalie.Saibot88 wrote:Many goals against but more the other way![]()
Someone that have a fix for not allow so many goals against?
On my current file, I've usually ended up scoring between 370 and up, a few times as high as 420.
For the most part letting in 260 goals or around there, the least has been 226.
Correct. It is doable to let in less goals, but you gotta have a ton of good players then. I mean on a file I have/had. I scored as much as 571, and let in as little as 124 that season. That's extreme though! That team was insanely good with the top guy scoring 249 points and the third liners scoring 70+ points.Draisaitl wrote:I think the point of the tactic is to just shoot and shoot hence the name of the tactic. I'm sure you can tweak it but I think having an awesome goaltender is almost a must if you want to concede less goals
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
St. PierreSirWroom wrote:The better team the less goals against, especially on goalie.Saibot88 wrote:Many goals against but more the other way![]()
Someone that have a fix for not allow so many goals against?
On my current file, I've usually ended up scoring between 370 and up, a few times as high as 420.
For the most part letting in 260 goals or around there, the least has been 226.
Correct. It is doable to let in less goals, but you gotta have a ton of good players then. I mean on a file I have/had. I scored as much as 571, and let in as little as 124 that season. That's extreme though! That team was insanely good with the top guy scoring 249 points and the third liners scoring 70+ points.Draisaitl wrote:I think the point of the tactic is to just shoot and shoot hence the name of the tactic. I'm sure you can tweak it but I think having an awesome goaltender is almost a must if you want to concede less goals
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Those are what though, EHM 2007? In EHM 1 the tactic seems a bit muted in effectiveness, though it's still a good tactic. In EHM 1 it'll leave you more vulnerable to giving up goals, and you won't get those huge offensive numbers.SirWroom wrote:Correct. It is doable to let in less goals, but you gotta have a ton of good players then. I mean on a file I have/had. I scored as much as 571, and let in as little as 124 that season. That's extreme though! That team was insanely good with the top guy scoring 249 points and the third liners scoring 70+ points.
Red Wings Beast Team - http://bildr.no/view/YXl4akc4
Penguins Top Contender - http://bildr.no/view/NWg1VjIw
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NHL History - http://bildr.no/view/clZzZTlY
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Yes it is EHM 2007, I haven't tried EHM 1 yet.Primis wrote:Those are what though, EHM 2007? In EHM 1 the tactic seems a bit muted in effectiveness, though it's still a good tactic. In EHM 1 it'll leave you more vulnerable to giving up goals, and you won't get those huge offensive numbers.SirWroom wrote:Correct. It is doable to let in less goals, but you gotta have a ton of good players then. I mean on a file I have/had. I scored as much as 571, and let in as little as 124 that season. That's extreme though! That team was insanely good with the top guy scoring 249 points and the third liners scoring 70+ points.
Red Wings Beast Team - http://bildr.no/view/YXl4akc4
Penguins Top Contender - http://bildr.no/view/NWg1VjIw
Red Wings 2nd line(!) Center - http://bildr.no/view/UWFGSkpi
NHL History - http://bildr.no/view/clZzZTlY
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
I tried this with my Panthers (season 2049/2050) and the results are amazing. Did tweek it just a bit.
The settings are like this:



FIRST EVER STANLEY CUP FOR THE PANTHERS!!

THIS IS MY HISTORY

If you want a screen of someone/something just let me know
The settings are like this:



FIRST EVER STANLEY CUP FOR THE PANTHERS!!

THIS IS MY HISTORY


If you want a screen of someone/something just let me know

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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Given up 6 goals in 2 games which isn't great but I've scored 11. McDavid has 6 points already so the tactic is working so far. Very fun although i too will tweak slightly to see if the goals against can be improved without sacrificing the offence.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
What about tactic for powerplay and penaltykill?Saibot88 wrote:I tried this with my Panthers (season 2049/2050) and the results are amazing. Did tweek it just a bit.
The settings are like this:
FIRST EVER STANLEY CUP FOR THE PANTHERS!!
THIS IS MY HISTORY![]()
If you want a screen of someone/something just let me know![]()

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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Actually a was on standard, not tweaked.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Okay, thanks! New to EHM, so just tryin' to get as much/many tips and adviced I can getSaibot88 wrote:Actually a was on standard, not tweaked.
