testing data - "draft classes" (by YOB)

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:33 am

I've done some recent testing using the TBL 11.2 database and the ECK 3.2 database.

here the testing data was used to look at forward Player Roles/Attributes https://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/v ... 84#p241084
and here the data was used to look at NHL forward Attribute data both at startup and 30 years later https://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/v ... 85#p241085

In this thread I'll be posting data from the same testing, looking at the PA of "draft classes" (using Year Of Birth rather than actual draft classes for ease on compiling the data)

I've got the PA data by birth year divided by position (G-D-F), and...

looking at players age 19-33 in the database at startup (1985-1999 YOB)
looking at "near future drafts" (2000-2009 YOB)
looking at drafts 20-30 years in the future (2020-2030 YOB)

I've got a third test save using 11.2 but checking the boxes to add all possible players before startup, and I'll be posting that data too for at least the near future drafts time period.

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:43 am

There are 5 different PA categories/ranges...
100-200
150-200 (in blue)
120-139
140-169
170-200

I've also noted the CA range for...
the top 10 goaltenders by CA
the top 20 defensemen by CA
the top 40 forwards by CA

ALSO - I added to the goaltender data, in the far right column, the total number of players for that Year Of Birth (all positions, CA 1-200)

Goaltenders age 19-33 in the database at startup (1985-1999 YOB)

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

1985	G	23	2	3	3	0	110-159	33	1148
1986	G	27	6	5	7	0	122-161	32	1222
1987	G	35	3	12	3	1	122-168	31	2039
1988	G	33	3	11	7	1	128-163	30	2025
1989	G	28	3	8	4	1	118-163	29	2069
1990	G	38	3	10	5	0	120-151	28	2230
1991	G	38	2	9	5	0	115-158	27	2220
1992	G	55	1	16	6	0	125-150	26	2386
1993	G	55	4	13	6	1	120-175	25	2398
1994	G	47	3	14	6	1	120-171	24	2732
1995	G	65	4	24	3	1	115-156	23	3186
1996	G	57	2	28	3	0	102-139	22	3410
1997	G	60	2	16	2	1	95-120	21	2842
1998	G	51	4	18	8	0	100-150	20	3042
1999	G	55	6	11	11	2	95-120	19	2669

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

1985	G	21	2	2	3	0	102-162	33	875
1986	G	26	5	6	5	1	120-174	32	969
1987	G	32	2	11	2	1	120-180	31	1571
1988	G	28	3	8	2	1	120-176	30	1620
1989	G	24	3	5	1	2	110-184	29	1689
1990	G	34	3	10	3	0	116-164	28	1871
1991	G	38	2	7	2	1	114-168	27	1858
1992	G	43	1	9	1	0	110-154	26	1995
1993	G	51	3	12	1	3	110-176	25	2034
1994	G	59	2	15	2	2	108-180	24	2352
1995	G	76	6	21	5	2	106-140	23	2752
1996	G	67	1	22	2	0	100-115	22	3072
1997	G	71	6	21	11	0	94-110	21	2758
1998	G	70	6	24	10	0	95-140	20	2943
1999	G	76	5	21	6	1	90-104	19	2712

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:47 am

Defensemen age 19-33 in the database at startup (1985-1999 YOB)

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

1985	D	71	5	19	6	2	122-176	33
1986	D	74	5	21	8	0	122-153	32
1987	D	67	4	27	8	0	125-160	31
1988	D	83	1	21	4	0	118-152	30
1989	D	101	6	32	9	2	124-168	29
1990	D	123	9	42	18	3	127-176	28
1991	D	116	12	39	15	0	128-164	27
1992	D	138	7	49	14	0	128-160	26
1993	D	144	7	44	14	0	128-156	25
1994	D	169	14	51	21	1	134-165	24
1995	D	182	4	53	14	0	124-154	23
1996	D	153	3	50	9	1	110-159	22
1997	D	158	17	55	18	0	117-160	21
1998	D	178	5	63	11	1	110-147	20
1999	D	136	6	54	10	1	90-150	19

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

1985	D	64	7	8	7	3	120-190	33
1986	D	81	4	17	4	1	120-174	32
1987	D	68	5	20	7	2	122-184	31
1988	D	83	2	21	3	0	120-160	30
1989	D	109	8	24	7	3	124-186	29
1990	D	149	19	39	19	6	142-192	28
1991	D	156	15	35	12	4	130-172	27
1992	D	178	7	39	23	1	132-176	26
1993	D	195	12	47	14	5	128-166	25
1994	D	203	23	66	25	11	144-176	24
1995	D	233	8	62	18	5	124-164	23
1996	D	235	8	67	18	2	118-166	22
1997	D	275	17	70	20	5	118-164	21
1998	D	274	20	76	25	4	114-156	20
1999	D	268	19	66	25	5	100-150	19

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:48 am

Forwards age 19-33 in the database at startup (1985-1999 YOB)

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

1985	F	128	5	43	7	2	118-188	33
1986	F	131	7	46	9	1	127-175	32
1987	F	147	8	53	12	2	124-190	31
1988	F	171	9	60	12	3	124-175	30
1989	F	160	9	43	17	1	122-178	29
1990	F	189	12	63	16	1	122-170	28
1991	F	223	12	74	21	1	128-168	27
1992	F	288	17	90	32	1	130-169	26
1993	F	239	13	81	25	2	128-175	25
1994	F	509	27	165	51	2	134-171	24
1995	F	318	10	90	26	2	124-169	23
1996	F	326	23	88	31	5	134-163	22
1997	F	329	23	74	25	9	110-180	21
1998	F	305	24	90	31	3	106-159	20
1999	F	309	22	89	32	3	98-149	19

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

1985	F	100	6	15	7	2	112-196	33
1986	F	118	5	27	4	3	115-190	32
1987	F	117	7	25	9	4	118-196	31
1988	F	141	9	31	6	4	118-190	30
1989	F	131	11	20	12	3	114-176	29
1990	F	181	12	27	9	3	114-192	28
1991	F	195	17	48	14	6	118-186	27
1992	F	261	21	57	20	8	120-186	26
1993	F	236	16	55	13	9	116-190	25
1994	F	309	15	58	17	7	116-174	24
1995	F	348	14	83	21	6	114-184	23
1996	F	369	27	87	27	8	114-180	22
1997	F	387	18	102	31	7	105-196	21
1998	F	393	28	108	37	4	98-166	20
1999	F	400	34	111	48	6	94-160	19

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:44 am

So, looking at the startup data...

For players (all positions) with a 100-200 PA, the ECK database has 10% more (ECK 6973, TBL 6332)
For players (all positions) with a 150-200 PA, the ECK database has 24% more (ECK 464, TBL 374)
For players (all positions) with a 170-200 PA, the ECK database has 160% more (ECK 151, TBL 58)

For goaltenders with a 100-200 PA, the ECK database has 7% more (ECK 716, TBL 667)
For goaltenders with a 150-200 PA, the two databases are really close (ECK 50, TBL 48)
For goaltenders with a 170-200 PA, the ECK database has 56% more (ECK 14, TBL 9)

For defensemen with a 100-200 PA, the ECK database has 36% more (ECK 2571, TBL 1893)
For defensemen with a 150-200 PA, the ECK database has 66% more (ECK 174, TBL 105)
For defensemen with a 170-200 PA, there's a huge difference (ECK 57, TBL 11)

For forwards with a 100-200 PA, the TBL database has 2% more (TBL 3772, ECK 3686)
For forwards with a 150-200 PA, the ECK database has 9% more (ECK 240, TBL 221)
For forwards with a 170-200 PA, the ECK database has 111% more (ECK 80, TBL 38)

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:40 pm

Here's the PA data by birth year, divided by position (G-D-F), looking at "near future drafts"

TBL 11.2 + refers to the third test save I did using 11.2 but checking the boxes to add all possible players before startup (thus the + added to the database name)

Goaltenders at age 19, years 2019-2028 ingame (2000-2009 YOB)
FYI - the data is taken from the day after the NHL Draft in June of each year

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

2000	G	49	6	15	11	0	84-130	19	2540
2001	G	31	4	11	8	0	85-120	19	1848
2002	G	35	6	7	11	0	85-109	19	2067
2003	G	109	6	34	12	0	91-111	19	10546
2004	G	108	9	26	6	4	100-128	19	12340
2005	G	76	5	20	8	0	92-129	19	7197
2006	G	55	4	18	5	0	95-115	19	4692
2007	G	44	4	8	4	1	85-118	19	4611
2008	G	52	6	14	11	0	100-129	19	5423
2009	G	31	0	11	2	0	89-120	19	6670

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

2000	G	66	8	24	11	0	84-110	19	2486
2001	G	50	13	18	16	1	82-116	19	1778
2002	G	30	9	9	11	1	85-94	19	2058
2003	G	108	9	30	12	3	90-112	19	8529
2004	G	131	7	37	15	1	93-106	19	10883
2005	G	95	10	20	11	3	98-114	19	7561
2006	G	45	3	10	6	2	90-106	19	4862
2007	G	75	7	20	6	2	92-110	19	5320
2008	G	75	3	27	3	0	90-110	19	6192
2009	G	74	4	18	4	1	92-110	19	7208

TBL 11.2 +

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

2000	G	49	3	15	8	0	80-110	19	2914
2001	G	49	7	16	7	2	86-115	19	3014
2002	G	42	5	11	5	2	89-122	19	3998
2003	G	153	12	51	18	3	88-127	19	15979
2004	G	154	13	51	18	1	91-106	19	17685
2005	G	83	4	22	8	0	91-100	19	8676
2006	G	49	5	18	8	0	90-98	19	5072
2007	G	40	5	8	6	0	88-105	19	6241
2008	G	57	5	11	7	1	92-107	19	8086
2009	G	52	5	15	10	0	95-110	19	10548

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:43 pm

Defensemen at age 19, years 2019-2028 ingame (2000-2009 YOB)
FYI - the data is taken from the day after the NHL Draft in June of each year

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2000	D	135	8	56	13	1	90-157	19
2001	D	116	22	34	30	0	90-120	19
2002	D	107	13	40	18	0	91-120	19
2003	D	329	29	81	28	11	100-124	19
2004	D	281	18	73	26	4	100-129	19
2005	D	169	5	31	8	0	93-126	19
2006	D	151	4	41	8	0	95-116	19
2007	D	120	1	40	4	0	94-120	19
2008	D	119	1	24	2	1	92-122	19
2009	D	124	3	35	4	1	93-126	19

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2000	D	276	19	84	41	2	102-162	19
2001	D	207	39	56	54	4	100-116	19
2002	D	172	28	54	36	5	94-120	19
2003	D	340	41	98	50	11	98-116	19
2004	D	348	29	88	34	6	100-116	19
2005	D	309	23	64	27	4	97-116	19
2006	D	307	14	56	15	4	97-110	19
2007	D	287	11	52	18	2	98-117	19
2008	D	269	10	58	12	7	98-112	19
2009	D	237	10	41	17	2	99-110	19

TBL 11.2 +

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2000	D	159	16	51	20	3	95-157	19
2001	D	166	20	58	32	7	89-128	19
2002	D	217	26	75	34	5	92-122	19
2003	D	576	71	148	76	15	96-128	19
2004	D	569	51	160	54	19	102-130	19
2005	D	270	17	73	22	4	95-119	19
2006	D	130	4	43	4	1	89-116	19
2007	D	116	5	29	9	1	91-107	19
2008	D	118	3	33	4	1	90-100	19
2009	D	161	5	40	8	1	93-111	19

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:36 pm

Forwards at age 19, years 2019-2028 ingame (2000-2009 YOB)
FYI - the data is taken from the day after the NHL Draft in June of each year

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2000	F	280	23	86	35	4	91-141	19
2001	F	235	28	77	44	5	94-128	19
2002	F	295	29	99	41	10	94-131	19
2003	F	642	57	179	69	11	101-130	19
2004	F	712	55	169	56	14	107-132	19
2005	F	645	27	142	33	8	98-133	19
2006	F	319	4	80	9	0	93-125	19
2007	F	239	4	78	8	0	95-124	19
2008	F	256	5	82	11	2	98-122	19
2009	F	256	10	59	13	1	95-119	19

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2000	F	363	38	136	52	2	99-163	19
2001	F	340	65	133	89	8	101-150	19
2002	F	307	59	92	75	13	91-120	19
2003	F	723	114	201	111	31	105-123	19
2004	F	710	66	174	65	22	100-117	19
2005	F	520	30	117	30	10	96-116	19
2006	F	453	16	85	23	9	96-114	19
2007	F	437	23	89	31	6	98-120	19
2008	F	407	21	88	23	8	96-114	19
2009	F	440	18	94	16	8	97-156	19

TBL 11.2 +

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2000	F	306	26	98	37	6	91-142	19
2001	F	344	51	106	63	11	92-128	19
2002	F	467	53	138	64	17	96-128	19
2003	F	1316	153	419	164	37	103-130	19
2004	F	1357	138	376	150	40	110-134	19
2005	F	574	35	167	49	6	104-125	19
2006	F	333	4	90	10	1	89-112	19
2007	F	284	10	80	16	3	91-123	19
2008	F	302	11	67	15	3	95-112	19
2009	F	361	8	62	13	1	93-110	19

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:22 pm

So, looking at the “near future drafts” data...

• Players (all positions) with a 100-200 PA: TBL+ 8854, ECK 8201, TBL 6110
• Players (all positions) with a 150-200 PA: TBL+ 771, ECK 747, TBL 396
• Players (all positions) with a 170-200 PA: TBL+ 191, ECK 178, TBL 78

• Goaltenders with a 100-200 PA: ECK 749, TBL+ 728, TBL 690
• Goaltenders with a 150-200 PA: ECK 73, TBL+ 64, TBL 50
• Goaltenders with a 170-200 PA: ECK 14, TBL+ 10, TBL 5

• Defensemen with a 100-200 PA: ECK 2752, TBL+ 2482, TBL 1651
• Defensemen with a 150-200 PA: ECK 224, TBL+ 218, TBL 104
• Defensemen with a 170-200 PA: TBL+ 57, ECK 47, TBL 18

• Forwards with a 100-200 PA: TBL+ 5644, ECK 4700, TBL 3879
• Forwards with a 150-200 PA: TBL+ 489, ECK 450, TBL 242
• Forwards with a 170-200 PA: TBL+ 125, ECK 117, TBL 55

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:15 pm

Something I've noticed during the data compiling - players potential "secondary positions" (and the frequency of their being a 1)

What I mean by secondary positions is
- LD for RD
- RD for LD
- C and RW for a LW
- C and LW for a RW
- RW and LW for a C

I'm not sure they should ever be 1, but they IMO really shouldn't be for anyone with a junior level or higher (and NHLers just shouldn't have a 1).

Wouldn't most players at most CA/PA levels have at least a 6-10 or a 7-10 in their position's secondary position(s)?

What I'm talking about is, for example

LD with a 20 for LD and a 1 for RD
RW with a 20 for RW and a 1 for C and a 1 for LW

From recent testing, using TBL 11.2 + after 10 years of simming

Out of 11,069 LD, 33% have a 1 for RD (and also when below 10 the secondary position is disproportionately a 1 - 3,623 LD have a 1 for RD, in comparison to only 247 LD that have 2-9 for RD.....)
looking at Player Roles for those receiving a 1 it seemed to be all types
seems to affect all CA levels too (28% of LD with a 150-200 CA have a 1 for RD; 28% of LD with a 130-200 CA have a 1 for RD; 43% of LD with a 100-200 CA have a 1 for RD)

From the same testing

Out of 11,937 RW 37% (4,451) have a 1 for C and a 1 for LW
For 33 of the 4,451 it's a a little weird - these players have a 20 for RW, a 1 for C and LW, and a 19 for RD! and a defensive Player Role! (the 33 players had a variety of defensive Player Roles)

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:56 pm

Goaltenders at age 19, years 2039-2049 ingame (2020-2030 YOB)

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

2020	G	51	2	13	6	0	92-128	19	6967
2021	G	62	2	16	5	1	103-120	19	6042
2022	G	62	3	20	8	0	102-119	19	6433
2023	G	62	6	16	7	1	96-136	19	7707
2024	G	56	5	15	8	0	95-127	19	8065
2025	G	49	3	16	8	1	92-128	19	7659
2026	G	57	6	14	9	0	90-107	19	7399
2027	G	55	4	18	4	1	90-122	19	7209
2028	G	39	0	15	5	0	92-110	19	6924
2029	G	55	4	12	6	0	90-119	19	6714
2030	G	50	4	15	7	0	97-111	19	7209

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 10 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)	total players for YOB

2020	G	97	15	22	18	5	101-118	19	9458
2021	G	118	14	33	14	2	100-110	19	8876
2022	G	136	9	29	17	1	100-116	19	8925
2023	G	107	9	26	12	1	100-114	19	9590
2024	G	119	11	26	19	1	97-110	19	10541
2025	G	109	6	24	12	1	98-110	19	10613
2026	G	118	4	32	10	1	94-110	19	9999
2027	G	128	9	30	10	1	97-109	19	10434
2028	G	117	12	24	14	4	100-112	19	10452
2029	G	126	6	39	7	1	92-108	19	10901
2030	G	118	7	40	7	3	90-108	19	11177

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:58 pm

Defensemen at age 19, years 2039-2049 ingame (2020-2030 YOB)

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2020	D	156	7	49	10	2	105-130	19
2021	D	113	8	35	16	3	105-130	19
2022	D	140	6	44	14	0	105-131	19
2023	D	196	17	39	20	2	109-130	19
2024	D	232	16	53	29	1	110-130	19
2025	D	187	16	49	21	4	110-128	19
2026	D	160	16	58	18	1	105-126	19
2027	D	159	23	29	24	6	105-127	19
2028	D	140	11	30	15	0	100-127	19
2029	D	125	5	30	4	2	94-112	19
2030	D	130	11	37	8	7	95-132	19

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 20 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2020	D	386	34	104	41	6	104-114	19
2021	D	360	29	88	36	8	104-118	19
2022	D	350	39	78	50	6	104-118	19
2023	D	431	28	94	49	4	102-114	19
2024	D	451	43	94	57	7	104-125	19
2025	D	455	33	101	36	10	102-113	19
2026	D	392	27	89	32	7	101-118	19
2027	D	441	33	87	36	11	102-108	19
2028	D	391	26	85	31	7	100-110	19
2029	D	430	29	99	27	13	104-112	19
2030	D	444	23	97	37	5	100-106	19

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:02 pm

Forwards at age 19, years 2039-2049 ingame (2020-2030 YOB)

TBL 11.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2020	F	347	22	96	38	1	108-132	19
2021	F	251	17	84	25	5	104-130	19
2022	F	334	24	94	40	4	110-132	19
2023	F	418	26	112	32	7	110-131	19
2024	F	435	30	121	38	4	115-130	19
2025	F	402	44	121	60	3	109-129	19
2026	F	341	28	102	45	2	105-132	19
2027	F	328	39	79	38	9	104-130	19
2028	F	296	17	76	17	3	96-130	19
2029	F	246	12	54	11	5	93-128	19
2030	F	317	16	71	17	6	98-129	19

ECK 3.2

YOB	POS	100-200	150-200	120-139	140-169	170-200	Top 40 CA	Age (YEAR-YOB)

2020	F	612	44	155	63	9	104-118	19
2021	F	620	51	161	65	10	104-118	19
2022	F	645	60	151	82	10	104-120	19
2023	F	767	74	172	98	15	104-118	19
2024	F	756	77	161	93	25	104-114	19
2025	F	693	79	137	78	20	102-114	19
2026	F	726	71	136	77	21	104-116	19
2027	F	715	52	159	67	13	101-114	19
2028	F	651	48	131	53	17	102-114	19
2029	F	745	48	175	48	18	100-110	19
2030	F	789	43	202	41	15	99-108	19

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:29 pm

So, looking at the “future drafts” data (2020-2030 YOB)...

• Players (all positions) with a 100-200 PA: ECK 13543, TBL 6051
• Players (all positions) with a 150-200 PA: ECK 1093, TBL 450
• Players (all positions) with a 170-200 PA: ECK 278, TBL 81

• Goaltenders with a 100-200 PA: ECK 1293, TBL 598
• Goaltenders with a 150-200 PA: ECK 102, TBL 39
• Goaltenders with a 170-200 PA: ECK 21, TBL 4

• Defensemen with a 100-200 PA: ECK 4531, TBL 1738
• Defensemen with a 150-200 PA: ECK 344, TBL TBL 136
• Defensemen with a 170-200 PA: ECK 84, TBL 28

• Forwards with a 100-200 PA: ECK 7719, TBL 3715
• Forwards with a 150-200 PA: ECK 647, TBL 275
• Forwards with a 170-200 PA: ECK 173, TBL 49

Here's the same data, but looking at average number per year

• Players (all positions) with a 100-200 PA: ECK 1231.2, TBL 550.1
• Players (all positions) with a 150-200 PA: ECK 99.4, TBL 41.9
• Players (all positions) with a 170-200 PA: ECK 25.3, TBL 7.4

• Goaltenders with a 100-200 PA: ECK 117.5, TBL 54.4
• Goaltenders with a 150-200 PA: ECK 9.3, TBL 3.5
• Goaltenders with a 170-200 PA: ECK 1.9, TBL 0.4

• Defensemen with a 100-200 PA: ECK 411.9, TBL 158.0
• Defensemen with a 150-200 PA: ECK 31.3, TBL TBL 12.4
• Defensemen with a 170-200 PA: ECK 7.6, TBL 2.5

• Forwards with a 100-200 PA: ECK 701.7, TBL 337.7
• Forwards with a 150-200 PA: ECK 58.8, TBL 25.0
• Forwards with a 170-200 PA: ECK 15.7, TBL 4.5

Post by **nino33** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:04 pm

nino33 wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:29 pm Here's the same data, but looking at average number per year

• Players (all positions) with a 100-200 PA: ECK 1231.2, TBL 550.1
• Players (all positions) with a 150-200 PA: ECK 99.4, TBL 41.9
• Players (all positions) with a 170-200 PA: ECK 25.3, TBL 7.4

On average per year the TBL database is producing over a draft round worth of top quality NHL talent per year, with an elite/superstar player (190-200 PA) just less than half the time.

On average per year the ECK database is producing more than 3 draft rounds worth of top quality NHL talent, with about two or three being elite/superstar players (190-200 PA) per year.

Here's looking at the total number of 190-200 PA players over the eleven years
Goaltenders - ECK 1, TBL 1
Defensemen - ECK 7, TBL 0
Forwards - ECK - 20, TBL 4

Here's looking at the total number of 180-189 PA players over the eleven years
Goaltenders - ECK 4, TBL 0
Defensemen - ECK 23, TBL 4
Forwards - ECK 46, TBL 11

Here's looking at the total number of 170-179 PA players over the eleven years
Goaltenders - ECK 16, TBL 3
Defensemen - ECK 54, TBL 24
Forwards - ECK 107, TBL 34