Unsigned prospects / Expired rights

Post by **Lidas** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:49 pm

Does anyone know where I can find a list of NHL drafted players who were not signed, and thus the rights expired.

Thanks in advance.

deknegt · Post by **deknegt** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:42 pm

filter for RFA's at the search screen.

Post by **archibalduk** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:03 pm

deknegt wrote:filter for RFA's at the search screen.

I think he's talking about real life, not in EHM

TSN has an unofficial list of potential (they won't actually become UFA or RFA until July 1st when the trade period starts again) UFAs and RFAs HERE. But, if you wait until June 30th or July 1st there will be an official list on NHL.com (the official list isn't released until the last day of June or the first day of July). If you remind me at the end of the month, I shall get you the official NHL.com link for you.

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:18 am

archibalduk wrote:TSN has an unofficial list of potential (they won't actually become UFA or RFA until July 1st when the trade period starts again) UFAs and RFAs HERE. But, if you wait until June 30th or July 1st there will be an official list on NHL.com (the official list isn't released until the last day of June or the first day of July). If you remind me at the end of the month, I shall get you the official NHL.com link for you.

That list doesn't include non-signed draftees. I've been trying to find such a list myself, but no luck.
Blake Wheeler and Bryce Swan are the only ones I've heard of.

Post by **Lidas** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:11 am

Manimal wrote: That list doesn't include non-signed draftees. I've been trying to find such a list myself, but no luck.
Blake Wheeler and Bryce Swan are the only ones I've heard of.

That's what I'm looking for, sorry if I wasn't clear enough in my first message.
I've had no luck in finding such a list... hoping that someone else knows where I can find one.

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:54 am

Here's a list of major junior players drafted in 2006 and not signed by the June 1 deadline, thus having them re-enter the draft. I think they turn FA's if they're not drafted. That could also be an age issue, I'm not sure. I'm not fluent in CBAish.
I hope I have them all right. I composed this list myself.

Benjamin Breault, Buffalo
Devin DiDiomete, Calgary
Ben Shutron, Chicago
Ben Wright, Columbus
Martin Frechette, Columbus
Jesse Dudas, Columbus
Aaron Snow, Dallas
Ondrej Fiala, Minnesota
Cameron Cepek, Montreal
Kyell Henegan, New Jersey
Pierre-Luc Lessard, Ottawa
Ryan Daniels, Ottawa
Michael Dupont, Philadelphia
Jordan Bendfeld, Phoenix
James DeLory, San Jose
Dane Crowley, Tampa Bay
James Reimer, Toronto
Evan Fuller, Vancouver
Luke Lynes, Washington
Maxime Lacroix, Washington

I find it odd that some European-based 2006-drafted players have been subject to having their rights lost and not others. For example, Jhonas Enroth and Dennis Persson had to be signed by Buffalo but Stefan Ridderwall wasn't signed by the Isles and still they have him listed as a prospect on their webpage. It's confusing. Maybe all teams haven'r removed their non-signed euros, I don't know

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:32 am

... and add Bryce Swan for Anaheim. I forgot to include him as I had mentioned him in the other post

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:42 am

Another thing, I looked for it in EHM, and the game has different rights expiry year for players picked in the same draft, for example Enroth(exp. 2007) and Persson (exp.2008). Strange...

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:38 am

Manimal wrote:Another thing, I looked for it in EHM, and the game has different rights expiry year for players picked in the same draft, for example Enroth(exp. 2007) and Persson (exp.2008). Strange...

Disregard this. I just realised I misread something here. It's when his contract expires not his rights.

Post by **archibalduk** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:57 pm

Regarding unsigned draftees, the following news item (dated 30 May 2008) might be of some interest for you:

I received an email today from Flyers GM Paul Holmgren clarifying the status of unsigned 2006 draft pick Joonas Lehtivuori, one of the organization's top defense prospects.

The Flyers and other teams with unsigned European players selected in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft will not be bound by the June 1 signing deadline to hold on to the players' rights.

The current NHL-NHLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement specifies that NHL clubs have a two-year signing window for players drafted from European teams. However, the lack of an NHL-IIHF transfer agreement -- and the ongoing negotiations for a new one -- means that NHL clubs will continue to hold the rights of 2006 draftees beyond June 1.

Extending the signing window to four years has been one of the key areas of discussion between the NHL, NHLPA the IIHF and the major European hockey federations. For different reasons, all of the parties involved are in favor of a lengthier signing period.

Doing so will require an amendment of the NHL-NHLPA collective bargaining agreement as well as creating a new international agreement. For these reasons, it would be unfair to the NHL teams, the affected players and their current European teams to enforce the June 1 deadline for the 2006 draftees.

In the Flyers' case, that means that the organization continues to hold the NHL rights of Lehtivuori, Russian defenseman Denis Bodrov (who recently signed with Avangard Omsk), Traktor Chelyabinsk right winger Andrei Popov, and Czech goaltender Jakub Kovar (now playing in the OHL for Windsor, but drafted out of Ceske Budejovice's U-20 team).

Here's the link to the news item.