2009 NHL Entry Draft discussion

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:56 pm

So the draft starts Friday night. I believe they're showing it on VS in the US and TSN in Canada. There's a lot of talk of trades possibly happening at the draft. I'm really looking forward to seeing how things play out. The draft is always such an exciting thing, especially for us armchair GMs.

For my Bruins there has been lots of talk about the Bruins trying to trade up to get either Kassian or Kreider. I've also heard that they're trying to get their hands on some 2nd or 3rd round picks (they don't have a 2nd round pick). One article I was reading mentioned the Bruins having a lot of interest in a 21 year old Finnish goalie (I forget his name) that is a late bloomer and still in the draft. There have been lots of rumors of Kessel getting dealt but I've also heard a few talking about Savard (his contract expires after this coming season) or Rask getting dealt. Right now I think most of it is just rampant speculation.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:34 pm

I think that Bruins trade Phil Kessel or Manny Fernandez (i think Tuukka Rask is back-up goalie next year) for 1st round pick.

Yeah, and about that Finnish goalie, his name is Mikko Koskinen, who was the number one goalie this year in Espoo Blues (Bernd Brückler had been back-up goalie since december '08 so Brückler decided to go to KHL).

I think that Finnish winger Toni Rajala would drafted at 1st round, maybe Top15 (he make new points record (6 games, 10 goals and 9 assists, the last record was made by Alexander Ovetshkin) in Junior Championsships).

My Mock draft (1st round):
1. Islanders: John Tavares
2. Lightning: Victor Hedman
3. Avalanche: Matt Duschene
4. Thrashers: Evander Kane
5. Kings: Brayden Schenn
6. Coyotes: Jared Cowen
7. Maple Leafs: Oliver Ekman-Larsson
8. Stars: Scott Glennie
9. Senators: Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson
10. Oilers: Dmitri Kulikov
11. Predators: Zack Kassian
12. Wild: Toni Rajala
13. Sabres: Ruan Ellis
14. Panthers: Jordan Schroeder
15. Ducks: John Moore
16. Blue Jackets: Carter Ashton
17. Blues: Chris Kreider
18. Canadiens: Louis Leblanc
19. Rangers: Dylan Olsen
20. Flames: David Rundblad
21. Flyers: Simon Despres
22. Canucks: Jakob Josefsson
23. Devils: Kyle Palmieri
24. Capitals: Calvin de Haan
25. Bruins: Mikko Koskinen
26. Islanders (SJ): Nick Leddy
27. Hurricanes: Peter Holland
28. Blackhawks: Ryan O'Reilly
29. Red Wings: Landon Ferraro
30. Penguins: Jeremy Morin

selne · Post by **selne** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:51 pm

Lots of rumors, but we had that rumors around the trade deadline and nothing big happened. But i hope for some trades.

The Ducks are rumoured to be highly interested in Kessel since they need a good second line center. Now that Pronger is gone they have some cap space. Heatley will probably be traded for a good first round pick and some prospects.

As for the draft i see Duchene going second after Tavares. Hedman will be taken third overall.
It seems just more important to get a real strong center to build a team around than a defenseman.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:07 pm

Jypfan92 wrote:I think that Bruins trade Phil Kessel or Manny Fernandez (i think Tuukka Rask is back-up goalie next year) for 1st round pick.

Manny Fernandez is a UFA and Rask is penciled in as the backup for next year.

Jypfan92 wrote:Yeah, and about that Finnish goalie, his name is Mikko Koskinen, who was the number one goalie this year in Espoo Blues (Bernd Brückler had been back-up goalie since december '08 so Brückler decided to go to KHL).

That's the guy. The Bruins are interested but he's not projected as a 1st round pick, probably a 2nd. The only way I can see the Bruins taking him at #25 is if they acquire another pick in the first round to draft a forward or dman. I could see the Bruins acquiring a 2nd round pick to draft him if he's still available though.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:10 pm

selne wrote:Lots of rumors, but we had that rumors around the trade deadline and nothing big happened. But i hope for some trades.

The Ducks are rumoured to be highly interested in Kessel since they need a good second line center. Now that Pronger is gone they have some cap space.

Kessel's natural positon may be center but his skills are more geared towards the wing in the NHL. I don't know that I'd want to have him playing center on my team. That being said... what do you think the Ducks would give up for him?

selne wrote:As for the draft i see Duchene going second after Tavares. Hedman will be taken third overall.
It seems just more important to get a real strong center to build a team around than a defenseman.

If Hedman is available 3rd overall, I sure hope the Bruins can acquire that pick. I think he'll be taken 2nd though. Most of the talk I've heard says that it will be either Tavares or Hedman going 1st.

jays_leafs4life · Post by **jays_leafs4life** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:07 pm

selne wrote:Lots of rumors, but we had that rumors around the trade deadline and nothing big happened. But i hope for some trades.

The Ducks are rumoured to be highly interested in Kessel since they need a good second line center. Now that Pronger is gone they have some cap space. Heatley will probably be traded for a good first round pick and some prospects.

As for the draft i see Duchene going second after Tavares. Hedman will be taken third overall.
It seems just more important to get a real strong center to build a team around than a defenseman.

Sorry just wanted to ask but since when was Pronger traded. No deal for him has been struck and until Niedermayer decides he will remain a Duck it seems. Also Hedman may go first and no way he drops to 3rd, TB already has Stamkos and Vinny and ever since Boyle left they need a stud defenceman and what better one then Hedman.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:09 pm

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Post by **getzlaf15** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:24 pm

I'm really excited for some big draft day deals. Loads of teams will be active for sure. The Ducks have given Nieds a deadline of draft day to decide what he's doing, so i guess they can offload Pronger that night if he stays... Heatley is a huge name that is going to move and i think he'll move at deadline day!

I agree with Jays_leafs4life that Hedman will not drop to 3rd and i think the Isles will want Hedman more than Tavares, but will pick Tavares as the fans wouldn't be happy if they didn't!

Selne a couple of things you said, Isn't Kessel primarily a LW? (Gettin ahead of ourselves now) That could be Kessel, Getzlaf, Perry top line!

Defense wins championships and Hedman is the most ready of all the prospects to play next year as he has been against men all year! I'd be more than happy to give 15th overall and someone for Kessel, i think he's a top guy! And back to that rumour a few weeks back, if we move Pronger to the Kings for 5th overall and Johnson that would be Awesome!

I'm excited!

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:45 pm

getzlaf15 wrote: Selne a couple of things you said, Isn't Kessel primarily a LW? (Gettin ahead of ourselves now) That could be Kessel, Getzlaf, Perry top line!

Kessel played C until he came to the Bruins. They were (and still are) very deep at C, so he got moved to the wing. He's played both LW and RW. His skills are better suited to the wing than center.

selne · Post by **selne** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:08 pm

That Pronger trade is actually not done, but i heard from a source (a friend knows another friend..) that there is already a written agreement on this.

And Kessel.. he played on the wing with the Bruins, but i always had the impression that he feels more comfortable playing center. But it's just a rumour.. no trustful sources so far. The Ducks don't have much to give in return, but i could imagine a package like "1st round pick + Ryan Whitney" or just a couple future draft picks.

By the way, I've always used to trade for Ryan and Kessel in EHM and let them play on the same line. They became friends quickly.

selne · Post by **selne** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:20 pm

jays_leafs4life wrote:.. Also Hedman may go first and no way he drops to 3rd, TB already has Stamkos and Vinny and ever since Boyle left they need a stud defenceman and what better one then Hedman.

Well, i expect Tampa to be very active at the draft day. They need a new look. Wouldn't be surprised if they move Lecavalier for a huge amount of draft picks to pick both Duchene and Hedman.

watts555 · Post by **watts555** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:21 pm

I am excited for this draft. Especially excited to see what the Maple Leafs do. I know Burke wants to move up. I want him to move up to. Anywhere from 3-5 would be good. Try and get Duchene.. if that doesnt pan out, then they can go with Brayden Schenn (who I personally want them to pick). It just adds more excitement for the leafs. But if they don't move up, I could see hem taking Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson or Jared Cowen.

Also, Hedman and Tavares are the top 2 picks in the draft.. and then Duchene follows

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:03 am

Does anyone else think that Tavares doesn't seem to have a personality? He always seems so... Dull...

Post by **philou21** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:34 am

I read something about Brian Burke saying that Matt Duchesne will probably be the first overall pick of the 2009 draft. He says he speak with Snow and he think Snow will pick Duchesne. Is it me or Burke just can't shut up? I know Duchesne have a great potential but do you think this could happen? If this really happen, i call Burke to tell him i'm sorry that i think is an idiot. Seriously the chance this happen is like 10%.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:30 am

Yeah, in a short interview that you can find on TSN.ca. He says he thinks the Isles will pick a forward and most probably Duchene. Not a chance in my eyes...

Post by **Jypfan92** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:53 am

bruins72 wrote:Manny Fernandez is a UFA and Rask is penciled in as the backup for next year.

Oh, I didn't remember that Manny is UFA i just think that he has contract for upcoming season

bruins72 wrote:That's the guy. The Bruins are interested but he's not projected as a 1st round pick, probably a 2nd. The only way I can see the Bruins taking him at #25 is if they acquire another pick in the first round to draft a forward or dman. I could see the Bruins acquiring a 2nd round pick to draft him if he's still available though.

Yeah, and about Koskinen, maybe he isn't 1st round pick cause he's 21-year-old, but why not, he played perfect season.

mulla14 · Post by **mulla14** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:21 am

Are ye kidding me!!! Tavares drop out of No.1?? Absolutely no chance and if by some slim reason the islanders dont pick him they'll regret it for life!! i dont care if all there defenders suffer ACL Tears and retire they wont pick hedman nor any other forward! Tavares is as exciting a prospect as crosby, or ovechkin.

On another note haha i wouldnt mind seeing the hawks pick a good prospect goalie in the first round, someone to become the franchise goalie in time

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:50 pm

I've heard one rumor (TSN is actually reporting this) that the Bruins have offered Phil Kessel to Toronto for the #7 overall pick and Kaberle. Interesting but I'm a bit afraid to deal him within the conference. I've also heard that Tampa is interested in Kessel. Now this is something I'd love to see. If the Bruins could package Kessel and a bit more to land the #2 overall pick and land Hedman... wow.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:52 pm

Burke want's a high pick though. I can't see him giving up that 7th overall spot...

bossman · Post by **bossman** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:29 pm

Yeah Tavares will definitely be picked by the Isles. I think Brian Burke, by saying he wanted Tavares badly, forced Garth Snow to own up and say whether he would consider trading the pick. It sounds like he won't, so Burke focused on #2 (which the Leafs won't get either). I could see them trading up to #3 and grabbing Duchene, who I believe will be there at #3 instead of Hedman.

As for the Kessel to the Leafs for the #7 pick and Kaberle...I don't know about that. Kessel is young and looks like the real deal. But I wonder if the Leafs would do this deal and then turn around and use Kessel to nab one of the top 3 picks. Just a thought.

Post by **philou21** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:30 pm

Draft begin in less than 30 min! Rumors of Isles picking Duchesne instead of Tavares continue to grow up and it's seem more and more serious ( not to my eyes ). Another rumors is that probably Dany Heatley will be trade tonight at the draft. They think it's about 75% of a chance to see Heatley leave the Senators and the Rangers are the most serious team in the race.

Seems that Kari Lethonen also going to move tongiht ( another rumor ) Is Don Waddel gonna make another move to confirm is status of the worst GM in the NHL?

I heard that Lethonen need a change to start doing better things he was doing in Atlanta, if this is really the fact that's ok for me, but who gonna be the #1 goalie of the Thrashers? Pavelec? Hedberg? Ouch poor Kovalchuk......Since he is one of my favorite player i hate to see him waste is potential with this team. He got noboby to feed the puck! and he just got he's second best NHL season, imagine what he can do with some good player around him. Little is a great player, but he's not a playmaker and doesn't need to talk about White.....

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:35 pm

Nieds is playing next year. In Anaheim remains to be seen. Now to move Pronger? Who knows! I'm excited!

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:46 pm

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Post by **philou21** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:47 pm

Franck wrote:Check out what his favourite game is

Oh nice!!

After is NHL career he could become GM! lol

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:52 pm

Haha, i now love Tim Erixon!

Draft him Ducks! And Paarjavi-Svensson!