In EHM, the smallest details are represant so my question is...If, for exemple, my scout is from Russia, should i put him to scout the country? What i mean is if he comes from this country will the scouting report be better? I know it's sound stupid but i need to know. 
Yeah, i tend to send the scouts from Sweden to Sweden. Russia to Russia. Etc. If i remember in Football Manager, scouts have prefered areas, which are generally the countries from around where they are from, but in EHM. I'm not sure it matters as there isn't any indication that it affects there production.bruins72 wrote:Honestly, I can't say if it really makes a difference but I do try to put scouts into regions where they are from if I can. Still, I've never done any serious research into it. I think the biggest factor in scouting really comes down to the scout's Judging Potential and Judging Players attributes.
These notes are word representation of player attributes. Since some player abilities are affected by many of his attributes, it's quite hard to translate the numbers to words... The best way is to take into account both variants - attributes numbers and scout notes.aadam wrote:2) What are the notes in a scouting report good for? Like 'he hits well... plays a solid two-way game ... has a good shot'. You can recognize all his strenghts and weaknesses from the skills on his player profile, or not? Or are these notes some kinds of projections?
No, it's not a bug. If scouts have similar player potential judgment, they give you similar reports. It's easyaadam wrote:3) I usually assign 4 or 5 scouts to the entry draft. So I get many reports for almost every player by the draft. But they're exactly in same in many cases, or only differ a very little bit. So almost every scouts give the same player comparision and projected career role. Are they all right, or is that some bug?
And maybe some scout can be better in goalies potential judging then shooters judging, or something like that.If you scout him personally, you get more accurate reports. Scout can watch player for longer period of time, I guess.aadam wrote:4) Why is it better to scout a player personally than to having him scouted in an entry draft assignment? Does it give only a longer list of notes or a more reliable projection?
I'll try to answer the other one then.aadam wrote:Just a few questions...
1) What is more important? Projected career role or player projection? Sometimes, scouts tell me that some prospect has 2nd line potential but compare him to a bad player.
You should also compare the projected career role and player projection to the player's grades on the scouting report card and look at his stats (points, +/-, hits, PIM, or whatever is most relevant) and see where they rank in that league. If you've got a guy that your scouts say will be a top player but compare to a bad player and you see he's playing in the QMJHL and not producing, I'd tend to believe the player projection. You've really got to look at everything on a case by case basis.getzlaf15 wrote:I'll try to answer the other one then.aadam wrote:Just a few questions...
1) What is more important? Projected career role or player projection? Sometimes, scouts tell me that some prospect has 2nd line potential but compare him to a bad player.
I tend to look at the career role rather than the player compared too. I'm not sure if you've ever scouted one player with 3 or 4 scouts, the scouts normally say it's the same player, but they all have different career roles. Obviously, check which scout has the best "Judging Player Potential" attribute. As they are obviously more accurate
I'm not actually in a draft to check right now but I think the "Notes" option that you're seeing blank is to check the notes you can add to a player (go to a player, it's between scout player and compare players). Either that or you're talking about the option where it allows you to pick 5 scouts to show their reports next to the players (the scouts show how many stars they give the players). These will only show up if you pick the scouts for each report field. Like I said, there should be 5 of them. And the players must currently be on that scout's report (ie, you sent that scout to scout the draft, he's completed that assignment, and you haven't re-assigned him elsewhere).RomaGoth wrote:My question involves the draft. There is an option to view the Scouts Notes, but they are always empty? Does anyone know what this means, exactly?
Yes, the 5 scouts notes thing that you are talking about. I have a screenshot of it but can't figure out how to post it here. In any case, I think I understand what you are saying. I will have to look at it again later when my scouts have done some more draft digging. Is this a useful tool, though? I mean, if you have reassigned a scout somewhere else, then these scout notes are not showing up anyway, that doesn't seem to make much sense to me really.bruins72 wrote:I'm not actually in a draft to check right now but I think the "Notes" option that you're seeing blank is to check the notes you can add to a player (go to a player, it's between scout player and compare players). Either that or you're talking about the option where it allows you to pick 5 scouts to show their reports next to the players (the scouts show how many stars they give the players). These will only show up if you pick the scouts for each report field. Like I said, there should be 5 of them. And the players must currently be on that scout's report (ie, you sent that scout to scout the draft, he's completed that assignment, and you haven't re-assigned him elsewhere).RomaGoth wrote:My question involves the draft. There is an option to view the Scouts Notes, but they are always empty? Does anyone know what this means, exactly?
It's very useful. It's a major part of my draft. What I do is assign everyone to different areas in October. I assign some to leagues, some to countries, some to regions (sometimes), and some to specific teams. This allows me to really scour these places for players to draft. Then those scouting trips end about 2 or 3 months later. At that point, I assign my 5 best scouts to scout the draft. They'll finish before the draft. Don't assign those 5 scouts to do anything else after that! Do whatever you want with your other scouts, just be sure to leave these 5 alone. Then when the draft comes, you tell it you want the scouts report or whatever it's called. Then in should open up another drop-down menu that will allow you to assign a scout to each of the 5 spots. So now you'll have the players' names and stars next to them indicating the scouts' opinions on them. You can even choose to sort by one scout's stars. I like to go into the filters and say I'm looking for a specific position, sometimes with certain stats, and then see who each scout thinks is best out of those by sorting based on his stars. My whole draft revolves around this!RomaGoth wrote: Yes, the 5 scouts notes thing that you are talking about. I have a screenshot of it but can't figure out how to post it here. In any case, I think I understand what you are saying. I will have to look at it again later when my scouts have done some more draft digging. Is this a useful tool, though? I mean, if you have reassigned a scout somewhere else, then these scout notes are not showing up anyway, that doesn't seem to make much sense to me really.
Thanks for the info, I am going to take a look at it tonight. I have never used this function before, should be interesting. In fact, been playing EHM since 2005 and never realized you could do this.bruins72 wrote:It's very useful. It's a major part of my draft. What I do is assign everyone to different areas in October. I assign some to leagues, some to countries, some to regions (sometimes), and some to specific teams. This allows me to really scour these places for players to draft. Then those scouting trips end about 2 or 3 months later. At that point, I assign my 5 best scouts to scout the draft. They'll finish before the draft. Don't assign those 5 scouts to do anything else after that! Do whatever you want with your other scouts, just be sure to leave these 5 alone. Then when the draft comes, you tell it you want the scouts report or whatever it's called. Then in should open up another drop-down menu that will allow you to assign a scout to each of the 5 spots. So now you'll have the players' names and stars next to them indicating the scouts' opinions on them. You can even choose to sort by one scout's stars. I like to go into the filters and say I'm looking for a specific position, sometimes with certain stats, and then see who each scout thinks is best out of those by sorting based on his stars. My whole draft revolves around this!RomaGoth wrote: Yes, the 5 scouts notes thing that you are talking about. I have a screenshot of it but can't figure out how to post it here. In any case, I think I understand what you are saying. I will have to look at it again later when my scouts have done some more draft digging. Is this a useful tool, though? I mean, if you have reassigned a scout somewhere else, then these scout notes are not showing up anyway, that doesn't seem to make much sense to me really.
I believe it's based on the average NHL team but I could be wrong. I don't think we've ever received a clear answer on that from the developers. I don't really pay too much attention to that part of the scouting report. I'll look at a player's attributes to look for any glaring weaknesses (like low determination, work rate, or anticipation especially) and then I'll look at the Report Card in the Scouting Report. I look for some combination of A's and B's usually, maybe a C thrown in. My standards lower as the draft progresses. I look at the player's Projected Role last and see if it makes sense when put together with the other info. Sometimes I take it into consideration but other times it looks "off" and I ignore it.masarume wrote: I noticed that each game I start, the first draft would always be the best…. In terms of player roles and their projected player type. It gets worse in 2nd year and somewhat lousy in the 3rd. Is the 1st scorer/3rd two way center etc.. report based on my ROSTER? Or based on the player on an average NHL team?
I think it's just a case of your scouts being on the same page and seeing the same things. I never export scouting reports or save any of that stuff, so I'm quite positive it's not a case of overwriting saved exports.masarume wrote:I also noticed that in the first year, my scouts would vary on the player but with the second/third years, they would be identical (like a previous post)… is this because I’m overwriting certain saved exports? Or because my scouts are just being more accurate? After the 1st draft, I find it hard to pick players after the 2nd round since most of them are utility forwards or 7th defensemen…
Not to burst your bubble but trading away all of your picks to get top picks is consider "cheap" by many around here. It's an easy way to exploit the weaknesses in the game's AI. It's just too easy to acquire draft picks and draft all of the best players. Now that the game has been out for so long, it's getting to the point where many of us have to find ways of making the game more challenging (like by following self imposed rules or the ones we do in the challenges) so we don't get bored.masarume wrote:I end up trading my picks round 1-7 + players for two top 15 picks each year, because they seem to have a shot to make the team more…. I was never clear on how the system worked, but I seemed to be getting by so I didn’t ask any questions. Now with you experts around, this could be a huge help to my future games.
Thanks in advance for any help!
You might find the following thread interesting: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... php?t=4207masarume wrote:.. I end up trading my picks round 1-7 + players for two top 15 picks each year, because they seem to have a shot to make the team more…
This is very true. If you are using my database, I have created and edited the players for the 2007 draft to reflect how the draft went IRL. All players that were drafted and ranked were created. The 2008 draft also have a couple of players created, but not as many as the 2007 because there is not much info about them (yet). The 2009 draft is also quite weak for the same reason, but the 2010 draft is usually the where you can find the biggest prospects. Main reason for this is that it's filled with regens (retired players who are recycled). A few of them may pop up in the 2009 draft too.masarume wrote:
I noticed that each game I start, the first draft would always be the best…. In terms of player roles and their projected player type. It gets worse in 2nd year and somewhat lousy in the 3rd.
If you use my database, you can find the consistency rating on the bottom of the player information page. Consistency 10 is the normal level. Players with lower consistency have a tendency to disappear in games, whereas players with higher values rarely make a bad game. This value may be change/set in the editor.RomaGoth wrote:I have seen the "consistency" rating mentioned here in various places. Can anyone explain to me where I can find this rating, or is it one of the hidden ratings? I have the editor and have never seen it there either.
I pretty much do this except I keep all my scouts doing the league, nation, region thing till early March. Then I switch all but my advance scout to the Entry Draft since it takes about 3 months to do an intensive entry draft scouting assignment. Then I can review all my scouts opinions on any player in the draft and if I want set the 5 best for scouting reports in draft. The main thing is to remember to not re-assign ANY scouts till after the draft is over. Sometimes I change things up and do an early season Enrty drafts scout with all but the advance guy, then send them off to scout other things till March. I always scout on intensive unless I really need some info real quick, like when starting a new game.bruins72 wrote: It's very useful. It's a major part of my draft. What I do is assign everyone to different areas in October. I assign some to leagues, some to countries, some to regions (sometimes), and some to specific teams. This allows me to really scour these places for players to draft. Then those scouting trips end about 2 or 3 months later. At that point, I assign my 5 best scouts to scout the draft. They'll finish before the draft. Don't assign those 5 scouts to do anything else after that! Do whatever you want with your other scouts, just be sure to leave these 5 alone. Then when the draft comes, you tell it you want the scouts report or whatever it's called. Then in should open up another drop-down menu that will allow you to assign a scout to each of the 5 spots. So now you'll have the players' names and stars next to them indicating the scouts' opinions on them. You can even choose to sort by one scout's stars. I like to go into the filters and say I'm looking for a specific position, sometimes with certain stats, and then see who each scout thinks is best out of those by sorting based on his stars. My whole draft revolves around this!
