Dabo Hockey Manager (WIP)

Dabo is working on a project to create an unofficial successor to EHM 2007. Use this forum to discuss his project and any features you would like to see in either the initial version or in a future version.
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Not sure if these could help, but you can download a PDF of the official NHL rulebook:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=27011

And the NHL/NHLPA CBA:

http://www.nhlpa.com/About-Us/CBA/
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thanks for the second link.
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dave1927p wrote:Dabo, are you planning on making things like the Free Agent Eligibilty customizable? This is something i wish i could do with EHM...Collective Bargaining Agreement [CBA] rule changes. :)
Can you be more specific about what you had in mind? Salary roof for example will be changeable. I wish I had a list of all the rules. Checked nhl.com but there are still a lot of vagueness.
-ability to change/make players Free Agents before 'X' Amount of years
-ability to change rookie contract - say from 3 years to 4 (there's talk they might be doing that within the next couple years)
-ability to change age for draft eligle players. (so have a league age minimun similar to ootp)
-draft rights expiration customization..

stuff like that i guess. OOTP does a great job allowing each user to change the rules to whatever they like.

how about having some type of calulator that calculates the average salary would be a cool feature, but probably low on the priortity list. And giving the use the ability to change that value

EDIT: http://proicehockey.about.com/od/thenew ... p_expl.htm - that link might be helpful
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Thanks for the link. I will sit down some day and try to nail down all these rules and add fields in the database for them. I have quite a few already but it can easily become ugly if not done properly.
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Manimal wrote:Can you make it so that when you take over a team you only sign on for a certain number of years and then have to negotiate your own contract?
I don't want to derail the authors of this game, but I always thought this would be awesome.
NHL GM TYCOON -- with scenarios like CIV II or Sim City.

Goals? There could be several. Most cups. Most salary commanded. Highest prestige. Key to a City. Order of Canada. What ever.

Two other things about EHM.

A) I always thought it was stupid that GMs did all the negotiating. In real life, sometimes, the players (both current roster guys and UFAs) approach teams.

B) More interaction with the media. I shouldn't have to wait for a story to come out to comment on a player. I should be able to pick up the phone and call the local beat writer whenever the heck I want.
One, I want more power to praise a player. Two, More power to humiliate him! :rant:

C) I said two things, but here's a third. Most NHL teams have the ability to hire and fire coaches or at least heavily influence coach decisions in the AHL. I think we need to be able to have an option where we can set lines/training in the AHL (without having to create a new GM)

4) And secondly, 30-man online leagues is a must, IMO.

These are just some ideas ...
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Keep it up, is there any possibilities that you could say when this ''beta'' or something is released, im waiting this thing more than weekends!
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I am afraid it is gonna take quite some time since I have hardly started with the code yet. Keep in mind that this is a one man project so it will take time but I can assure you I work as hard as I can.
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Also, If possible, and if not suggested already, to European Leagues, make it possible to sign free agents to like 4 months to replace an injured player. And like IRL there are many Free Agents and this will make it possible.
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Atm I am implementing some game states (player profile, roster screen etc.) then I will add some random data into the database and try to load it into the game. If everything goes according to plans I will then add one league and some teams and try to write a basic game simulator (random scores) in order to try the league standings, player statistics states etc.

The database is not completely done yet but I believe I have enough in order to do the first step of the implementation.
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Great job so far. Keep up the great work! We are all with you!! =D>
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Wow this sounds awesome, keep up the good work.
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dabo wrote:No I will not because I think it is not interesting in a game like this. Personally I would rather go with a single radar chart and not show any particular attributes at all but you people would probably riot :)
I agree. The "overall" rating sucks
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In EHM when you go to pre-game editor and choose someone player, there reads "stanley cups won". Can you make that there's "Olympics won", "World Championships won", "Elitserien won", "Sm-league won" etc.?
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There are a lot of stuff I can add it is just a question of when. That sounds like one I should add yes.
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It would take years to create a game like NHL:EHM from scratch when only one person is doing it on his spare time. Most likely there will be a bunch of releases out just for testing purposes before you can play something remotely like NHL:EHM. Of course I could rush things but I want to do things properly otherwise there will be a bigger chance of things biting me in the ass later.

As I have written earlier, the first thing I will do is create a fake league, fake teams and players and do some basic simulating with a limited set of rules.
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dabo wrote:It would take years to create a game like NHL:EHM from scratch when only one person is doing it on his spare time. Most likely there will be a bunch of releases out just for testing purposes before you can play something remotely like NHL:EHM. Of course I could rush things but I want to do things properly otherwise there will be a bigger chance of things biting me in the ass later.

As I have written earlier, the first thing I will do is create a fake league, fake teams and players and do some basic simulating with a limited set of rules.
Well you saw how far Riz got in a number of years with EHM Freeware. Clearly with one person working on the game part-time it would take forever to get to an advanced game like EHM 2007.

You should use the NHL rosters and attributes from Lidas Rosters for your testing. This will help you evaluate how successful your simulation is.
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I will when time comes to write the "real" game simulator.
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Would this game have the chance for graphics such as logos, and facepacks for players?
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yes
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one more thing i'd like to request is having the boxscores say the way the player scored. The official NHL site does that for their boxscores and it just gives you a better idea of how the player scored. (they use: Wristshot, slapshot, snapshot, backhand, tip-in etc)
It would also be cool if we could search through those stats in the leaderboards - most league/team Wristshot goals, tip-in goals etc etc.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009020873


03:34 - STL -Eric Brewer (6) -Wrist Shot - Assists: T. Oshie (22) & D. Backes (19)
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Just thought I'd check in to see if there's any progress... :)
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Not a lot has happened during the olympics.

I have an important decision to make before going forward so things will probably be slow for awhile longer.
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Important decision eh? Anything you'd like to get feedback on?
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Not really, it's more of a programming thing.
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Really interesting project, I wish you luck.
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